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Not really. According to Wikipedia - Each U.S. state (and the District of Columbia) has its own age of consent. Currently state laws set the age of consent at 16, 17, or 18.By far (at least 30 states) the most common age is 16. Most states in addition have close-in-age exceptions that allow teenagers younger than the general age of consent to engage in consensual sex as long as their partners are close in age to themselves.
Back when...the age of consent for a girl was 7 in Delaware.
What were the male legislators of those times thinking?
I'm not sure but I think it was the age below which it was considered rape of a child with severe penalty maybe hanging? and above that age the penalty was less severe and the same as raping an adult woman. Historically above about age 12 was considered an adult. http://blogs.lawlib.widener.edu/dela...m-in-delaware/
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Under English common law, which was adopted by Delaware and the other states, rape was defined as ”the carnal knowledge of a woman forcibly and against her will.” 2 William Blackstone, Commentaries *210.
In order to convict a man of rape, both force and lack of consent had to be proved, except in the case of a girl under the age of consent who was considered to not know right from wrong and was therefore incapable of consenting. The traditional common law age of consent was 10 or 12. In Delaware the age of consent was 10 until 1871 when it was lowered to seven. 14 Del. Laws 105 (1871) The same law instituted the death penalty for sex with a girl below the age of consent, before that the penalty had been up to 10 years in prison. It was probably the increase in the penalty which caused the age to be lowered, although reticence at the time to even discuss rape, means there is little mention of the change in law in the newspapers of 1871 and no legislative
Good question and there a lot of links online about just that. On the other hand, is it something that's always been going on? In high school way back when we had an English teacher who was notorious for having sex with the older female teens.
I would bet money there are plenty of adult male teachers engaging in sexual relationships with female students, probably many more than the adult female/ male student type actually. Its not always the adult male teacher that is the one responsible for initiating these relationships either, many young girls at that age can be extremely caniving and manipulative.
I also believe majority of these relationships are never discovered and just dissolve on their own, teacher and/or student moves on.
My first thought was what the hell? But it's an interesting story.
From the NYPost -
"A former teacher in Alabama is fighting for her right to have sex with students.
Charli Jones Parker, 31, was convicted of having intercourse with two male 16-year-old students while she was a teacher at Pickens Academy. Now she wants her case overturned, claiming that a law prohibiting sex with students is unconstitutional, according to Tuscaloosa News."
So that sets the table. You'd think the case was a slam dunk but it turns out “Alabama law does not make it a crime for members of other occupations to have consensual sex with 16-, 17- and 18-year-olds, even when there is a position of trust or authority,” said attorney Virginia Buck, according to the newspaper."
So if you were a female accountant having sex with 16 year old boys in Alabama, that's okay. But not teachers. Yes, I get the sacred bond between teacher and student and societal norms...yadda yadda. But on strict legal grounds, she just might have a case.
Alabama, unabashed teen-predator... what office do Republicans plan on nominating her for?
Not really. According to Wikipedia - Each U.S. state (and the District of Columbia) has its own age of consent. Currently state laws set the age of consent at 16, 17, or 18.By far (at least 30 states) the most common age is 16. Most states in addition have close-in-age exceptions that allow teenagers younger than the general age of consent to engage in consensual sex as long as their partners are close in age to themselves.
If her case prevails, expect that age to increase. Which is probably a good idea anyway.
At least the age difference allowed with a 16 year old, usually something like not more 3 years in age difference.
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I don't think definitely as a rule. In some cases the student is 17 or 18 and the teacher is 20-something and single. And their romantic relations occurred off campus and away from work. It's no big deal and nothing to get all worked up over and to fire the teacher.
It is a big deal. I lived in a community where this was kind of routine. The teacher needs more than fired in order that they get their problem under control. Also, this was a supposed Christian couple at a Christian school.
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This is a whole republican thing to sort out
Alabama is a GOP state
GOP does not want to interfere with states
Alabama says 16 is old enuff
Nothing republican about this. That is the age of consent in most states. Had you read all the posts, you would have been aware of this and not come off as not having a clue about the subject you are speaking of.
Teaching is a profession that has the powers of loco parentis. That power allows a school the power and the responsibility to look after a child's physical welfare while at school.
That welfare includes mental health as well as physical health. The responsibility for the care of students extends throughout all the school personnel; the principal, vice principal, secretary, school nurse, janitorial staff, assistants, cooks, servers, and teachers.
They all must do what they can to keep a student physically and mentally healthy. That includes keeping the school as sanitary as possible, keeping order and discipline, attending to sudden illness promptly, and notifying proper officials of problems that are beyond a school's ability to address. This means calling an ambulance or a doctor, or the police, or anything that needs to be done to keep the children under their responsibility safe from harm.
This is not the same in private business. Any business doesn't have the legal control over minors it employs like the schools have. This is because children are required to receive some education in the United States. Our schools are the way almost all students receive their mandated education.
A 16-year old student who goes to work after school can have sex with anyone and the business is not held responsible for whatever crime that the sex may entail. The person who had sex with the legal minor is held responsible.
Any adult can have sex with any minor if the adult is not a part of the school system.
16 is the age of consent in Alabama, but age 16 does not make the child legal in anything other that consent to have sexual intercourse after marriage. The age of consent is also the age when a child can drop out of school legally if they are married, but only if they marry.
Outside of marriage, the child at 16 is still required to go to school if the child is registered into the school. The child can only drop out of the school system with parental consent. The school keeps its responsibility until then by mandate.
The child cannot vote, cannot drink alcohol legally, and cannot be held responsible for rights and privileges adults are granted to law. All the age of consent allows is a child can marry at that age. With the consent of the child's parents.
Having sex outside of marriage is still illegal until age 18, the age when a child can marry without requiring parental consent. So any adult who has sex with a legal minor still breaks the law unless the couple marry.
A teacher cannot physically abuse a child, nor can a teacher mentally abuse a child. A teacher cannot do things in school they could get away with in other professions, as the school is bound by law to report a wrongdoing as soon as it is discovered.
If the horny lady teacher wanted to have sex with that kid, she should have quit her job and married him. If she then wanted to have sex with the other kid, then she should have divorced the kid and taken up with the second kid and married him, too. To keep everything legal.
That it doesn't happen legally doesn't make the sex illegal. We all have set the standards we wanted to impose on those who have the physical custody of our children when they aren't under their parent's custody. We have set the standards we believe as a people as to the age when a child becomes a legal adult.
Until they are a legal adult, they are not held accountable for adult actions. The laws of consent were created as a device that allowed young people who were ready to assume adult responsibilities through marriage a way to be married.
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