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Old 02-13-2018, 10:24 PM
 
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Liberal group with ties to Obama, Hillary calls to restrict overseas U.S. military voting

After years of accusing states of “voter suppression,” the Center for American Progress wants to make it tougher for overseas military to vote in the name of election security.

The left-wing public-policy group issued Monday a report, “Election Security in All 50 States,” that called for stricter standards to prevent cyber-meddling in elections by foreign governments, including banning military stationed abroad from submitting ballots via email or fax.

One state that allows such vote-casting is Colorado. The center called on the state to “prohibit voters stationed or living overseas from returning voted ballots electronically.”

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Colorado Secretary of State Wayne Williams defended the practice, saying the state has incorporated safeguards to protect the integrity of ballots cast by military personnel living overseas.


Center for American Progress: CAP Election Security Report Finds Most States Remain Vulnerable to Hacking or Systemic Failure

Instead of concerning themselves with what others are doing, why don't they teach John Podesta what a phishing email is, and Hillary the importance of email security.

Ridiculous.
So, this is like an electronic version of requiring an ID to vote... why is this a problem? If we need to prove a person is who they say they are to vote in person, why not work to reduce the possibility of voter fraud electronically? Is it just because it wasn't a republican who is saying it?

And, it is equivalent to podesta and clinton's issues, in what way? Looks like apples and oranges...
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Old 02-13-2018, 10:29 PM
 
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The left is demented.
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Old 02-13-2018, 10:31 PM
 
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So, this is like an electronic version of requiring an ID to vote... why is this a problem? If we need to prove a person is who they say they are to vote in person, why not work to reduce the possibility of voter fraud electronically? Is it just because it wasn't a republican who is saying it?

And, it is equivalent to podesta and clinton's issues, in what way? Looks like apples and oranges...
This is not about voter ID.... they are trying to make it more difficult for those abroad to vote.

They are worried about electronic security - all of a sudden... but they can't teach Podesta what a phishing email is.
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Old 02-13-2018, 10:38 PM
 
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This is not about voter ID.... they are trying to make it more difficult for those abroad to vote.

They are worried about electronic security - all of a sudden... but they can't teach Podesta what a phishing email is.
Again, the two are not related. Podesta is not germane to this topic. But, making it more difficult for certain segments of the population to vote in person is related. After all, if the military stationed overseas should be allowed to vote via email and fax, so should everyone, everywhere. Right? Why do ordinary people within the US have to report in person to vote? They shouldn't be treated any different than the overseas military.
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Old 02-13-2018, 10:42 PM
 
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This is not about voter ID.... they are trying to make it more difficult for those abroad to vote.

They are worried about electronic security - all of a sudden... but they can't teach Podesta what a phishing email is.
Podesta actually did it correctly. It was his IT guy who told him to engage.

The report has a whole lot of suggestions to make the overall process more secure. Thought you Right Wingers would love that. The electronic transmitted ballot is a tiny part of the overall and could be handled.
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Old 02-13-2018, 10:48 PM
 
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Podesta actually did it correctly. It was his IT guy who told him to engage.

The report has a whole lot of suggestions to make the overall process more secure. Thought you Right Wingers would love that. The electronic transmitted ballot is a tiny part of the overall and could be handled.
Secure is fine. It should not make it more difficult for them to cast a vote and have their vote counted. This doesn't seem difficult to understand.

Are you aware of hacking related to the military vote?
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Old 02-13-2018, 10:53 PM
 
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Again, the two are not related. Podesta is not germane to this topic. But, making it more difficult for certain segments of the population to vote in person is related. After all, if the military stationed overseas should be allowed to vote via email and fax, so should everyone, everywhere. Right? Why do ordinary people within the US have to report in person to vote? They shouldn't be treated any different than the overseas military.
Military and non-military are not the same... especially from a security and information standpoint.
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Old 02-13-2018, 10:53 PM
 
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They can't think of any other way to disenfranchise white voters.

Whites aren't in jail/prison, they aren't felons or illegals...... they can read English just fine....they have ID.....so they got nothing.
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Old 02-13-2018, 10:57 PM
 
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Secure is fine. It should not make it more difficult for them to cast a vote and have their vote counted. This doesn't seem difficult to understand.

Are you aware of hacking related to the military vote?
Virtually all serious election hacking has involved absentee ballots of which the electronically mailed military ballot would be an exceptionally easy target.

But I would agree we do not want to make it harder for soldiers or anyone out of the country to vote. So we need some special stuff rigged to make it secure. Would not be all that hard. And relatively easy to make it leave an audit-able trail.

I would also note their are much bigger fish to fry in the report. States without the ability to audit all or part of their vote. The sounds like something we should fix quick.
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Old 02-13-2018, 10:57 PM
 
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We should make voting as easy as possible for every American that is eligible.
Election Day ought to be the day before Tax Day...and you vote on your return...that way nobody can defraud anyone.

Better yet...make it so unless you at least have some tax liability, regardless of whether you actually owe anything....you don't get to vote.
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