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...Are you going to shoot your wives, your daughter(s), your son(s), when they appeal to you to turn over the arsenal to be crushed?
I don't associate with people like that. I don't know of any close family member that is anti-gun. At dinner the other night, a lifelong friend of my told the story of her daughter receiving a Glock pistol as a birthday gift from the a young man she had only dated for a few months. Down here that is a sign of the relationship getting serious.
Now that I think about it, I gave my girlfriend (now wife of 25+ years) one of my pistols about the 6 month mark of our dating. While she doesn't carry a pistol on her at all times, if she travels there is always one in the car's lock box.
I don't know why they are surprised. 3% of gun lovers have hundreds of them each. If that isn't the definition of 'addicted'... and I'm the one "off the rails". Seriously...
As an actual mature adult, I'd like to point out the horribly insulting nature of your statement.
I do not support the NRA, but as an organization, they represent the opinions of their ~5M members, most of who I assume are American citizens. So you are basically OK with calling 5M of your fellow citizens "terrorists" and comparing them to the likes of actual terrorists like Mohamed Atta because you have political differences with them?
Not only is that a horrible way to view people with different opinions and life experiences than you, but its an even more horrible way to de-legitimize those who actually died at the hands of real terrorists.
Overboard statements like yours are part of what make it impossible to have real debates with real progress. Don't get me wrong, for every person saying what you say, there is likely someone just as ridiculous on the other side, and they are just as bad and just as guilty for the mess we are in.
The NRA has caused this mess and at the very least, it should be disbanded or dissolved from its current form.
The NRA began as quite a respectable organization in the beginning. As a matter of fact, back in 1934 one its most prestigious members became a quite distinguished and honorable president. His name was Karl Federick, he not only supported the idea of some form of gun control, but he also felt it unreasonable for anyone (including himself) to lawfully carry a firearm in public, unless they were LE officers. That was back when the NRA was primarily focused on the proper handling of firearms, excellent marksmanship, and the responsibility required for gun ownership. It was in no way linked to firearms manufacturing, arms dealers, and corrupt politicians who accept bribes from the NRA, thanks to NRA lobbyists.
My disrespect for the NRA does not include many of the current members of the NRA, but it does include members of the NRA administration who are aware that they are an arm of firearms industrial profiteers, who care nothing about the average American citizen, but who's sole concern is profit.
American society, culture, and civilization be damned! It's the profit which holds their allegiance.
Most of your friends have a dozen semi-automatic weapons? Do you think that's a little unusual?
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Do you now have a slight grasp of the gravity of our situation?
We are in deep deep deep doo.....
why? are you under the impression that they possess some magical capability to shoot multiple rifles simultaneously?
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I don't know why they are surprised. 3% of gun lovers have hundreds of them each. If that isn't the definition of 'addicted'... and I'm the one "off the rails". Seriously...
I don't know why they are surprised. 3% of gun lovers have hundreds of them each. If that isn't the definition of 'addicted'... and I'm the one "off the rails". Seriously...
This is a link. Ok... not hundreds... keep arguing the semantics friends. Hold fast to the details like they matter. It's lunacy anyway you want to slice it. And it will not stand. Countries with this amount of gun violence are at war with someone. Or they are failed states. No civilized country deals with so much tragedy on a daily basis... 40K automobile deaths, 64K drug overdose deaths, 30K gun accidents, 50K deliberate gun incidents including suicides... we aren't China with a billion + people to cull down to something manageable. We don't have 10's of thousands of productive young Americans to waste like this. It will not come to a good end. We are going to miss the missing one day. And you know how Americans love to play the 'blame game'. I wonder who will get the blame when we finally get it that we've $%$#ed up, royally.
This is a link. Ok... not hundreds... keep arguing the semantics friends. Hold fast to the details like they matter. It's lunacy anyway you want to slice it. And it will not stand. Countries with this amount of gun violence are at war with someone. Or they are failed states. No civilized country deals with so much tragedy on a daily basis... 40K automobile deaths, 64K drug overdose deaths, 30K gun accidents, 50K deliberate gun incidents including suicides... we aren't China with a billion + people to cull down to something manageable. We don't have 10's of thousands of productive young Americans to waste like this. It will not come to a good end. We are going to miss the missing one day. And you know how Americans love to play the 'blame game'. I wonder who will get the blame when we finally get it that we've $%$#ed up, royally.
Ha, when the average is 17 but you are claiming 100s each isn't semantics, its gross negligence in statistical terms.
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just 3% of Americans, called "super owners," who have an average of 17 guns each
Wow, CNN just reported that one of the deputies who was the first responder on the scene never entered the building, never engaged the shooter. Said they aren't releasing the footage. I guess this cop just stood there watching it go down?
Wow, CNN just reported that one of the deputies who was the first responder on the scene never entered the building, never engaged the shooter. Said they aren't releasing the footage. I guess this cop just stood there watching it go down?
We need more details , but it’s entirely possible. I remember a huge criticism of Columbine was that it took hours for police to storm the school.
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