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View Poll Results: Other than the shooter, who do you think is most responsible for the tragedy
Youtube, for deleting the warning comments of someone on the video 1 0.71%
The FBI 19 13.57%
The sheriff and his deputies 19 13.57%
The NRA 21 15.00%
Donald Trump 1 0.71%
The Second Amendment 6 4.29%
The FBI AND the sheriff and deputies and maybe Youtube too 51 36.43%
Other 22 15.71%
Voters: 140. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 02-22-2018, 03:37 PM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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Just 3% of Americans own more than half the country's guns | Big Think

This is a link. Ok... not hundreds... keep arguing the semantics friends. Hold fast to the details like they matter. It's lunacy anyway you want to slice it. And it will not stand. Countries with this amount of gun violence are at war with someone. Or they are failed states. No civilized country deals with so much tragedy on a daily basis... 40K automobile deaths, 64K drug overdose deaths, 30K gun accidents, 50K deliberate gun incidents including suicides... we aren't China with a billion + people to cull down to something manageable. We don't have 10's of thousands of productive young Americans to waste like this. It will not come to a good end. We are going to miss the missing one day. And you know how Americans love to play the 'blame game'. I wonder who will get the blame when we finally get it that we've $%$#ed up, royally.
you use the term 'hundreds' but it's my fault for holding you to that?
how odd.

details do matter, or we'd never use them or mention them. I have no idea why you've expanded your rants to encompass auto deaths and drug overdoses.
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Old 02-22-2018, 03:37 PM
 
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Incorrect.......... your own link says Gun rights groups, not just the NRA. There are MANY gun rights groups and they all donate to politicians just like any other group of people form groups to donate and lobby.
If you have a problem with that then you need to ban ALL lobbying in politics on both sides. AND.., 3 million dollars (if correct) spread out over the years and groups is not much money in comparison to a lot of other lobby amounts over the same period of time.
It doesn't matter! We're talking over a hundred thousand dollars in many cases and millions to several of the most influential GOP members....

Just GOOGLE....

Politico, Gun Lobby
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Old 02-22-2018, 03:37 PM
 
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We need more details , but it’s entirely possible. I remember a huge criticism of Columbine was that it took hours for police to storm the school.

If so, he was a COWARD! How many lives could have been saved if he went inside?


Broward Sheriff says armed deputy never went into school during mass shooting | KCBY
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Old 02-22-2018, 03:39 PM
 
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If so, he was a COWARD! How many lives could have been saved if he went inside?


Broward Sheriff says armed deputy never went into school during mass shooting | KCBY
Shockingly he just "retired" before they could fire or suspend him since he had seniority to do so. Full benefits for life I'm sure.
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Old 02-22-2018, 03:41 PM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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This isn't "sudden concern"......

This is more like the American saturation point!

How much more useless carnage and gore do you think we can take?
I think that exact question has been asked for at least a couple of years in Chicago and other places and yet here you and others are just now...
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Old 02-22-2018, 03:44 PM
 
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Default Update- Armed sheriff ,Scott Peterson, assigned at Stoneman Douglas did not engage shooter and is now retiring.

CNN is reporting this sad development in this tragedy. Not exactly a portrait in courage but another reason these assault weapons need the be outlawed.
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Old 02-22-2018, 03:45 PM
 
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Shockingly he just "retired" before they could fire or suspend him since he had seniority to do so. Full benefits for life I'm sure.

He's got the blood of 17 kids on his hands. He better hide forever.
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Old 02-22-2018, 03:46 PM
 
Location: St Paul
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The FBI agents who ignored both contacts about Cruz wanting to shoot up the school should resign as well. As should the school board that enacted the policy so that criminals like Cruz would not be charged with crimes & instead stay in school.
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Old 02-22-2018, 03:47 PM
 
Location: Gaston, South Carolina
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Default Where was the SRO at the Fla high school?

//www.city-data.com/forum/polit...-assigned.html

Let's use the above link which I did not see when I posted this.

Last edited by Joe the Photog; 02-22-2018 at 04:05 PM..
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Old 02-22-2018, 03:47 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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A great American coward.
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