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View Poll Results: Other than the shooter, who do you think is most responsible for the tragedy
Youtube, for deleting the warning comments of someone on the video 1 0.71%
The FBI 19 13.57%
The sheriff and his deputies 19 13.57%
The NRA 21 15.00%
Donald Trump 1 0.71%
The Second Amendment 6 4.29%
The FBI AND the sheriff and deputies and maybe Youtube too 51 36.43%
Other 22 15.71%
Voters: 140. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 02-22-2018, 04:38 PM
 
Location: NW Nevada
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So now you want to deflect from the armed deputy who didn't do his job by talking about the FBI and the school board? wow...

Deflect? ummm no. But it does seem that there were multiple fumbles on the line of scrimmage here. I didn't see any "deflection" in the post you quoted, but LE did have multiple opportunities to intercept Cruz and more than one dropped the ball.


The deputy certainly shares a good portion of the blame, but he wasn't the sole proprietor in it. If the FBI, school board, whoever had paid attention properly Cruz would not have made it as far as he did. Just sayin'.
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Old 02-22-2018, 04:38 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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There was another off duty policeman doing maintenance on one of the fields, he ran inside after hearing the shots but didn't have his gun.




One of the officers at Florida school shooting helped prevent tragedy in 2016 - Sun Sentinel
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Old 02-22-2018, 04:38 PM
 
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Many heads should roll.
Agreed. Including the Sheriff's.
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Old 02-22-2018, 04:38 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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So have the deputies carry ARs.
As likely as not actual M4 carbines (automatics).
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Old 02-22-2018, 04:39 PM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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School boards were forced to adopt those policies by the Obama Department of Education through the threat of withholding R3T and ESSA funds as well as not so veiled threats from the DOJ that if they didn't civil rights investigations might be pursued.



Smoke? Where did that come from? Unless I missed an update Cruz didn't set any fires, just pulled the fire alarm.
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“The gunman was wearing a gas mask and had smoke grenades. He then went and activated the alarm system and that caused the students to come out of the classrooms and, of course, that put them in this bunched up situation and with an AR-15 semi-automatic rifle, and a bunch of clips, you can imagine the carnage that he wrought,” said Nelson.
Sen. Nelson: “Gunman Was Wearing Gas Mask And Had Smoke Grenades” « CBS Miami
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Old 02-22-2018, 04:40 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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School teachers who may have been considering Trump's offer are probably having second thoughts now
Why? They KNOW now that police aren't there to protect them, any more than they will be there to protect any other citizen. Even more reason that individual teachers should have a means of defending themselves and their students.
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Old 02-22-2018, 04:41 PM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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Ok, I knew about the gas mask but "having" smoke grenades is different than deploying them.
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Old 02-22-2018, 04:45 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Hand gun v. Automatic Rifle. I would hide too.
Cruz didn’t have an “automatic” rifle.
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Old 02-22-2018, 04:45 PM
 
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Why would the Sheriff's office not know that's how the camera's in a school under their jurisdiction worked?
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Old 02-22-2018, 04:45 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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No, I want to name names & quit playing politics. This deputy, the FBI & the school board all have blood on their hands. They should all be sued.
I don't disagree. But the courts have ruled for decades that police have no duty to offer protection to any individual and can not be held liable when they fail to do so. I suspect all the guilty will be ignored and go on for decades more of drawing a paycheck on the backs of the taxpayers.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren...ct_of_Columbia
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