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And when one already inside opens a door to admit a co-conspirator?
We don't have the details of the security the school in Parkdale had but it wouldn't surprise me that some other student opened the door and let the shooter in.
Having been around high schools with decent security, the doors locking, etc...only one way in with someone watching the entrance -- not being able to drive a car onto the campus without proper identification, etc., I know the kids will let other kids in, even if they don't 'recognize' them.
There will be breaches of security.
Look -- Reagan was shot with how many armed Secret Service around him looking for anything......stuff will happen.
But I don't think having a mini-police station on a school campus is outrageous. We don't have to relocate offices that exist but new schools can consider including the municipal law enforcement officers close to or within the school campus.
We don't have the details of the security the school in Parkdale had but it wouldn't surprise me that some other student opened the door and let the shooter in.
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We know enough. There is a fence around the perimeter. The gates are electronically - controlled and opened in anticipation of the end of the school day.
There are also internal gates. Shooter used smoke bombs and pulled the fire alarm which released all the internal gates.
And this is how the second amendment keeps children from growing up in a police state.
Govt Schools are already there. Do you know what compulsory education is?
To address the o.p., no police stations in schools please. Govt security has proven itself a failure too many times.Close them, sending your child to one is dangerous in many ways more than one.
Where are the mass shootings in private schools,religious schools, Montessori schools, home schools?
Govt Schools are already there. Do you know what compulsory education is?
To address the o.p., no police stations in schools please. Govt security has proven itself a failure too many times.Close them, sending your child to one is dangerous in many ways more than one.
Where are the mass shootings in private schools,religious schools, Montessori schools, home schools?
Being as home schooled children are generally one kid or one family, no you are not going to have mass shootings there.
Look -- Reagan was shot with how many armed Secret Service around him looking for anything......stuff will happen.
I think that speaks volumes for what good armed personnel in a school would do. I think people could agree that the Secret Service are professionals in their craft. Their singular thought while on detail is to protect the president. Yet, Hinckley managed to shoot four people.
Consider that was with multiple armed professionals immediately around the perpetrator. Those four injuries could be certainly have been four deaths if the perpetrator had more than a few second window to work with.
Now take that to a school where either a teacher would have to cross the school to get to a perpetrator with more time, more rounds and a better weapon and actually engage them and actually successfully land a shot. I think we'd all agree that Secret Service professionals are better at the use of firearms than a teacher is. Same with an officer on-duty at a school.
Change out Hinckley's six-shot revolver for a more dangerous weapon and more time... and guess what? Armed personnel located 1-2 minutes away from a school or any other gun-free zone will make no difference. And given the nature of many school shooters, it seems like a minor deterrence at best at such great cost that no one will want to pay for.
I think a police officer should be present when children are entering school in the morning and going through the metal detectors. After that, the doors should be locked (preventing entry, not exit) and the officer is no longer needed.
That may work in one building schools where children do not need to leave that one building, but most schools are multiple building campuses. Even elementary schools have separate lunch rooms and recess outside.
That may work in one building schools where children do not need to leave that one building, but most schools are multiple building campuses. Even elementary schools have separate lunch rooms and recess outside.
I've seen the police put sub-stations in strip malls, they completely ended crime. As far as schools are concerned, it would probably depend on the buildings and cost.
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