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For the reason of defense of liberty, we need regular people well armed, the danger associated thereof must be tolerated, regardless of the (sometimes tragic) effect on short-term safety. Ben Franklin & James Madison spoke eloquently of this matter.
This has been debunked so many times....you are joking, right.
So a cultured Berliner who sang in the Opera or worked in the Dept. of Physics should have had a one shot rifle? And that would have stopped a Panzer or Dive Bomber or Howitzer?
Many COUNTRIES which were well-armed fell before the Nazis. Need I mention France, Belgium, Denmark and many others?
Plenty of "real" arms in those countries and it only took a couple days or weeks for the Nazis to run them over.
Let's put it this way. If Israel didn't have the USA behind it AND nukes it would cease to exist.
Note - you are probably not well read or else you would know about a number of well-armed groups in Germany that were killed down to the last man by the Right. This included lefties, communist sympathizers, pro-union types, etc.
There are whole books about it. They had machine guns, artillery and controlled entire towns and regions. They were battled and squashed. In fact, these rebellions only made the Nazis stronger as the population of Germany looked at the opposition squashed as being a good thing (troublemakers, etc.).
Liberals, fascists, communists, maybe you could lose the hysterics and get your facts straight.
Claiming Hitler was a liberal doesn't give credibility to your arguments.
actually it is factual
fascism (aka American liberalism) is left wing
fascism has its ties DIRECTLY to marx
Mussolini was the Che Guevara of his day, a living saint of leftism. Handsome, courageous, charismatic, an erudite Marxist, a riveting speaker and writer, a dedicated class warrior to the core, he was the peerless duce of the Italian Left. He looked like the head of any future Italian socialist government, elected or revolutionary.
Mussolini's Fascist program was a mixture of radical left, moderate left, democratic, and liberal measures.
Fascism (socialism lite) is left wing...just because it is slightly right of full blown socialism doent make it right wing
As an ardent admirer of Marx, Benito Mussolini (1883-1945) called his version of Marxist socialism "Fascism". Instead of nationalization--government ownership--of private business, Mussolini advocated government control of business via complete bureaucratic regulation.
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""Fascism is a system in which the government leaves nominal ownership of the means of production in the hands of private individuals but exercises control by means of regulatory legislation and reaps most of the profit by means of heavy taxation. In effect, fascism is simply a more subtle form of government ownership than is socialism."
hmm high taxes...super control (authoritarian) by regulations...sounds like the American liberals to anyone with common sense...................certainly not the conservatives who want little regulation and low taxes
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Zbigniew Brzezinski advisor to carter, clinton and obama.....""This is a form of Socialism known as fascism, and it will be the type of world government the power elite plans ultimately to bring about and control. In this government, the power elite will control politicians who will become government leaders who will promulgate laws, rules and regulations favorable to certain transnational corporations"""
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"...in Brzezinski's BETWEEN TWO AGES (1970), he praised Marxism, and he claimed that "the nation-state is gradually yielding its sovereignty."
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"The aim of socialism is not only to abolish the present division of mankind into smaller states and all-national isolation, not only to bring the nations closer to each other, but also to merge them." Lenin
fascism is left wing...the simple fact is that 99% of liberals (notice I said liberals not democrats ) are so far left that they are fascists(socialism lite) or full pledged socialists.....big government bring tyranny
hitler (german fascism), fascism, socialism, communism, Naziism, Marxism are all progressive left
liberals (ie progressives) were the one here IN AMERICA that were supporting hitler in the 1930's
Progressives also believed that industrialization had led to social “disintegration” and materialistic decadence throughout America.
progressives looked favorably on the policies and ideals of Italian and German fascism in the 1920s and 1930s.
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"A Marxist/progressive/Fascist/Liberal begins with his prime truth that all evils are caused by the capitalists. From this he logically proceeds to the revolution to end capitalism, then into the third stage of reorganization into a new social order of socialism, and finally the last stage -- the political paradise of communism." Saul Alinsky
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We are socialists, we are enemies of today's capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are all determined to destroy this system under all conditions." --Adolf Hitler
leftist hate capitalism
simple things like 'nationalizing' corporations, nationalization of all trusts(banks),social security, emanate domain(agrarian reform) , removing the guns from the people, demand the end of capitalism, state(country) provided education, blame the jews (or the modern version 'the zionists'),.. 'fairness doctrine"( censorship of talk radio),, singlepayer health, redistribution of wealth).....COMMON GOOD BEFORE INDIVIDUAL GOOD
DO THESE SOUND FAMILIAR, YES THE ARE THE TALKING POINTS OF THE LIBERALS, THE DNC AND MOVEON.ORG...............................THEY ARE ALSO A LARGE PART OF HITLERS 25 POINTS
hitler came into power because germany (after ww1) was in economic depression and he was the candidate of 'hope and change',, his plans slowly moved from being helpful to dreadful,,he took true socialism, and spun it with fascism and the next thing you know he is a liberaL dictator.
fascism/socialism/communism/marxism don't REQUIRE a dictator..but any time you make the government so big and powerful a totalitarian or dictator could easily step in
liberalism leads to dictators
liberals and their nationalistic mottos:
hmmm YES WE CAN...or lets NATIONALIZE the oil companies.....more hopey changey
This has been debunked so many times....you are joking, right.
So a cultured Berliner who sang in the Opera or worked in the Dept. of Physics should have had a one shot rifle? And that would have stopped a Panzer or Dive Bomber or Howitzer?
Many COUNTRIES which were well-armed fell before the Nazis. Need I mention France, Belgium, Denmark and many others?
Plenty of "real" arms in those countries and it only took a couple days or weeks for the Nazis to run them over.
Let's put it this way. If Israel didn't have the USA behind it AND nukes it would cease to exist.
Note - you are probably not well read or else you would know about a number of well-armed groups in Germany that were killed down to the last man by the Right. This included lefties, communist sympathizers, pro-union types, etc.
There are whole books about it. They had machine guns, artillery and controlled entire towns and regions. They were battled and squashed. In fact, these rebellions only made the Nazis stronger as the population of Germany looked at the opposition squashed as being a good thing (troublemakers, etc.).
This was one of the dilemmas in arming the Syrian rebels, middle class citizens, farmers and store owners against Assad. It didn't turn out well.
At peak, less than 1% of Germany's population was Jewish.
Gun restrictions on the non- Jewish population were substantially reduced under Hitler.
Exactly. They were a grossly outnumbered minority who had been declared enemies of the state. The smart thing to do was leave, which many of them did. If they had come out of their storefronts guns-a-blazin' that would have only guaranteed they'd all have ended up dead.
It was a long story. Anybody curious as to why relations between the Jews and Germans went sour should YouTube Benjamin Freedman's 1961 speech about the early Zionist movement. It's pretty interesting.
They would have had plenty of opportunity in the years BEFORE 1938 when the Nazi's were just a radical mob fighting with the communists for control of the government.
They did???? Please elaborate. And if you think Nazis were Communists I suggest you read some history. It is important to distinguish and understand, at least on a higher level, different ideologies.
Many COUNTRIES which were well-armed fell before the Nazis. Need I mention France, Belgium, Denmark and many others?
Being a Dane, I might quibble slightly and point out that Denmark really wasn't armed to deal with a Nazi invasion - no countries were, in 1940, but Denmark had been more trusting than most.
However, on the flip side of that: When it became time, 95% or so of Danish Jews were hidden from the Nazis and, by subterfuge and bribes and an amazing amount of luck, sent to safety in neutral Sweden. This was a massive act of civil disobedience, and not a shot was fired. Not very martial or flamboyant, no last stands or squinty-eyed men of action or heroic last words. Just Mr. and Mrs. Norman Normal deciding "The Rosenbergs are good folks worth helping, and Nazis are pricks" when push came to shove. Substance over style, and 7,200 Jewish Danes were ferried to safety.
Exactly. They were a grossly outnumbered minority who had been declared enemies of the state. The smart thing to do was leave, which many of them did. If they had come out of their storefronts guns-a-blazin' that would have only guaranteed they'd all have ended up dead.
Yep. Armed, unpopular minorities aren't respected or left alone - they're declared thugs and terrorists and eradicated. Imagine the Japanese-Americans resisting deportation with firearms. Those with anti-Japanese sentiments would have declared themselves vindicated, the hysterics would reach an even higher crescendo, and there would have been hundreds of deaths.
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