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It's not about justice, logic, nor rational thought, It is about Maxine, and the Democrats pushing propaganda to their base whom love to be VICTIMS as they can't take responsibility for their own circumstances. It is also about misplaced WHITE GUILT who still can't get over we had slavery over 150 years ago. White men fought and died in mass numbers, partially to end slavery, but I guess that is not enough for today's White Progressives.
There's is one of these times when I wonder did we all this for nothing?
As for Reperations, if that old skit from Dave Chappelle's Show aired back in 2003 is the kind of reperations then Maxime Waters dream of? https://hooktube.com/watch?v=7ZFHG8wWC5s
How Maxine would react to that clip of an "alternate reality" of MLK speech from an episode of the Boondocks?
It's not about justice, logic, nor rational thought, It is about Maxine, and the Democrats pushing propaganda to their base whom love to be VICTIMS as they can't take responsibility for their own circumstances. It is also about misplaced WHITE GUILT who still can't get over we had slavery over 150 years ago. White men fought and died in mass numbers, partially to end slavery, but I guess that is not enough for today's White Progressives.
Guilt is quite a natural emotion. We generally experience that emotion whenever we've committed some type of a wrong.
IMO
White Americans shouldn't feel guilty about slavery. However, all Americans should feel guilty about not addressing past transgressions against both indigenous and African Americans.
While reparations in the form of cash would in most cases be counter-productive, reparations in the form of education would certainly prove to be a huge step in the right direction.
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Please don't tell me that you don't believe that neither African-Americans nor indigenous Americans were victimized!
Yeah, "someone" swallowed a propaganda position "hook, line, and sinker."
I'm still waiting for someone to answer the following...
How do we know which black Americans' ancestors were slaves, and which ancestors were black American slave owners?
Black Americans, some of which were freed slaves themselves, owned Black slaves in the 18th and 19th centuries.
The inhumane atrocity of slavery was overwhelmingly executed by whites. The number of blacks who owned slaves was a very miniscule number. Therefore, don't worry about that insignificant number. Besides, there won't be any reparations in cash anyways...
IMO
All poor people could use some form of economic reparation for the financial hardships they've had to endure.
Let's just make the 4 first years of college tuition free for those who can't afford it, regardless of race.
Let's just make the 4 first years of college tuition free for those who can't afford it, regardless of race.
To what end?
At least a third of the undergrad majors/course of study at any university confer degrees with horrible real world ROI, simply because the corporate/business world that has the good paying jobs doesn't have a lot of need for people with extensive knowledge of medieval poetry, art history, ancient philosophy, etc.
Of note - people of lower ability gravitate towards the easier, lower ROI majors in college. We see this now, and have since the dawn of the "everyone must go to college" craze. Making that non-rewarding doesn't change the nature of the reward itself, it simply shifts the cost burden off the individual and onto the collective, likely raising that cost substantially.
Once again, we increase the cost and accomplish nothing. Seems like a standard SJW answer to any ill. Make it cost more, achieve nothing, declare victory!
The inhumane atrocity of slavery was overwhelmingly executed by whites. The number of blacks who owned slaves was a very miniscule number. Therefore, don't worry about that insignificant number. Besides, there won't be any reparations in cash anyways...
IMO
All poor people could use some form of economic reparation for the financial hardships they've had to endure.
Let's just make the 4 first years of college tuition free for those who can't afford it, regardless of race.
All poor people . What if they decided to get pregnant or impregnated someone at 16 ?
What if they decided it was more fun to party than go to school ?
A lot of people can already go to college for free , but don’t . Also when you make something totally free. Most people don’t appreciate it.
They aren’t invested. Even if it’s a small amount they should pay something.
There isn’t a lack of opportunity . There is a lack of motivation in the country .
Someone truly explores every possible existing opportunity out there and then can’t make it . Then I’ll feel bad for them . Someone that just takes one class and drops out because smoking weed or hooking up was more fun . Sorry .
Let's not complicate the matter. The entire system needs some form of modification.
Rather than approaching compensatory reparations, let's just reduce the gap between the rich and the poor through changes primarily in our educational system.
I only responded to the fact that black Americans can prove ancestry back to 1870 and before almost 90% of the time (or more).
In regards to reparations, I'll note it is hilarious that this thread is still going on.
But again, that the bill for reparations has been brought to the floor for over a decade now. Also that a reparations program is not specific to slavery.
Too often, too many non-black people ignore the fact that the black populations basically lived as a terrorized population from 1880 through 1970. If reparations would ever be provided, they would, could, and should be provided for that near century as it was the most damaging from the educational and economic perspective of black America.
There have been many threads on this forum over the years about reparations. As I have repeatedly noted, there are still black people alive today who have been financially harmed and medically harmed due to being survivors of terrorism inflicted upon the black population by white Americans and which the government overlooked and/or were complicit in. Reparations IMO should be in the form of medical care (including dental and psychological coverage) and educational scholarships at public universities along with a tax credit.
However, I'm not dumb enough to believe that reparations would ever occur. But if they did, that is what I'd want - not a check/money and I wouldn't want it to be based on slavery. If our ancestors would have been allowed equal opportunities after the Civil War, then we wouldn't have had the issues that many of you like to cite today as during the Reconstruction era, black people actually made great gains educationally and economically. You all should review a history by WEB DuBois called "Black Reconstruction in America"
I only responded to the fact that black Americans can prove ancestry back to 1870 and before almost 90% of the time (or more).
In regards to reparations, I'll note it is hilarious that this thread is still going on.
But again, that the bill for reparations has been brought to the floor for over a decade now. Also that a reparations program is not specific to slavery.
Too often, too many non-black people ignore the fact that the black populations basically lived as a terrorized population from 1880 through 1970. If reparations would ever be provided, they would, could, and should be provided for that near century as it was the most damaging from the educational and economic perspective of black America.
There have been many threads on this forum over the years about reparations. As I have repeatedly noted, there are still black people alive today who have been financially harmed and medically harmed due to being survivors of terrorism inflicted upon the black population by white Americans and which the government overlooked and/or were complicit in. Reparations IMO should be in the form of medical care (including dental and psychological coverage) and educational scholarships at public universities along with a tax credit.
However, I'm not dumb enough to believe that reparations would ever occur. But if they did, that is what I'd want - not a check/money and I wouldn't want it to be based on slavery. If our ancestors would have been allowed equal opportunities after the Civil War, then we wouldn't have had the issues that many of you like to cite today as during the Reconstruction era, black people actually made great gains educationally and economically. You all should review a history by WEB DuBois called "Black Reconstruction in America"
Ironic you think it funny that the thread is still going on yet see nothing funny that the reparations bill has been brought to the House floor for over a decade. As long as the issue is "kept alive", you should not be surprised people react to it.
Having noted that, you are correct about the post Civil War period. There should have been a Marshall Plan for the black population: Skill training, education, land grants, the works.
It is clearly too late and we live in a much better place now. Not perfect, but undeniably better.
The inhumane atrocity of slavery was overwhelmingly executed by whites.
I'm not seeing that. Slaves were captured and sold into slavery by fellow Africans. Africans captured and enslaved each other for convenience and profit for thousands of years before the Atlantic slave trade even began, and STILL capture and enslave each other for convenience and profit, to this day.
The US was just a tiny part of that. Read and learn. The following slave trade map shows where African slaves were shipped. The larger the arrow, the higher the number:
Public Domain. Via the NEH (National Endowment for the Humanities).
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