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On Sunday night, a Sacramento, California resident called 911 to report a man vandalizing homes and smashing in windows. He went outside to find his truck window smashed in. Police responded with helicopter surveillance that spotted the man, Stephon Clark, in the act of breaking windows and fleeing to a backyard.
Ground patrol followed him into the backyard and found him holding an unknown object. One officer believed it to be a weapon yelling "GUN!" and 20 shots were fired, killing Stephon Clark who had recently been released from jail and had a criminal record.
Since the man was black, the Black Lives Matters collective went into action springing mass protests. The criminal did not have a gun, and the officers made an unfortunate mistake. However, completely absent from this outrage in San Antonio was the fact that this individual was out victimizing the neighborhood and running away from police.
Where is the personal responsibility?
Were the BLM thugs protesting (a) the guy's smashing windows in homes and cars?
Or were they protesting (b) his disobeying clear police instructions at the scene of a crime, giving police probable cause for thinking he had a gun and was assaulting them, with split seconds for them to make a decision on how to respond?
Or were they protesting (c) the police's split-second response in the face of a credible lethal threat against them?
The first two scenarios were clearly the ones more deserving of protests, by BLM or anyone else.
What I suspect you are trying to imply was that Stephon was just hanging out in this backyard.
The helicopter deputy saw him break a window next door then jump the fence into his own backyard. At that time, he walked to the middle of the driveway. The police officers saw him there. Stephon failed to comply with commands and instead ran to his back yard towards the rear fence but ended up turning back towards the patio. It's all on video.
He was observed committing a crime and he ran. It does not mean he deserved to be shot nor is it relevant who's yard the police caught up to him in.
Not true. The helicopter deputy saw someone break a window. As is now clear they have not been able to demonstrate that it was, in fact, Carter.
And under any circumstances he had every right to hang out in that yard with a cell phone in hand. And that is regardless of whether or not he was the vandal.
Were the BLM thugs protesting (a) the guy's smashing windows in homes and cars?
Or were they protesting (b) his disobeying clear police instructions at the scene of a crime, giving police probable cause for thinking he had a gun and was assaulting them, with split seconds for them to make a decision on how to respond?
Or were they protesting (c) the police's split-second response in the face of a credible lethal threat against them?
The first two scenarios were clearly the ones more deserving of protests, by BLM or anyone else.
Which one did BLM choose to protest?
Police had no probable cause for "gun". Be rational. Seeing things not there is not a good thing. There was none. And it may well be that Carter got shot for following their instructions to show his hands.
Not true. The helicopter deputy saw someone break a window. As is now clear they have not been able to demonstrate that it was, in fact, Carter.
And under any circumstances he had every right to hang out in that yard with a cell phone in hand. And that is regardless of whether or not he was the vandal.
Watched it a number of times. There is no continuity. Should have been simple. Find his prints on the "tool". That obviously has not played out for the authorities.
There is no way to identify some one from an iR image.
And again irrelevant to the big issue. You do not shoot unarmed people in their back yards.
On Sunday night, a Sacramento, California resident called 911 to report a man vandalizing homes and smashing in windows. He went outside to find his truck window smashed in. Police responded with helicopter surveillance that spotted the man, Stephon Clark, in the act of breaking windows and fleeing to a backyard.
Ground patrol followed him into the backyard and found him holding an unknown object. One officer believed it to be a weapon yelling "GUN!" and 20 shots were fired, killing Stephon Clark who had recently been released from jail and had a criminal record.
Since the man was black, the Black Lives Matters collective went into action springing mass protests. The criminal did not have a gun, and the officers made an unfortunate mistake. However, completely absent from this outrage in San Antonio was the fact that this individual was out victimizing the neighborhood and running away from police.
Where is the personal responsibility?
"Since the man was black, the Black Lives Matters collective went into action springing mass protests."
Government says the autopsy paid for by the family is wrong on number of bullets and where some entry wounds are.
That's what you get with discount ambulance chaser autopsies. From the professional examination:
"The report states Clark was shot seven times- once in the left thigh, three times in the side and three times in the back. The private autopsy, performed by Dr. Bennet Omalu, done at the request of the Clark family said Clark was shot eight times- with seven of those shots hitting him from behind."
So there you have it, he was turning away as he was getting shot, i.e. not complying and trying to get away. Still a bad shoot any way you look at it, but this criminal brought this upon himself
"So he deserved to be shot 20 times and killed for an act of vandalism or theft?"
Typical response.
We KNOW what you would be saying IF he had shot and killed one of the police officers.
I think the next time, and it won't be long, a police officer is killed in the line of duty, YOU should be the one telling is family.
Think about THAT for a wile.
If he had been obeying the law he wouldn't be dead. If you so much as risk disobeying an officer giving pulling you over for a speeding ticket it could get rather interesting, or deadly.
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