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You have to remember, these are the same people on here who still believe Hillary is a hired killer, and that she runs a porn ring out of a pizza shop. Does that tell you anything ?
It must be a bit*h to go through life, thinking everything is crooked and everyone is out to get you. Not sure how these folks function when they get out of bed every morning. Bet some of them sleep with their assault weapons right next to them.
Naw, they KNOW she's a crooked,lying, self serving sociopath that can't seem to walk or even stand up...
You have to remember, these are the same people on here who still believe Hillary is a hired killer, and that she runs a porn ring out of a pizza shop. Does that tell you anything ?
No, she's just a serial liar and con artist who has ridden the coattails of her husband to a position of prominence.
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It must be a bit*h to go through life, thinking everything is crooked and everyone is out to get you. Not sure how these folks function when they get out of bed every morning. Bet some of them sleep with their assault weapons right next to them.
My wife won't let me bring my assault weapons to bed. She says the barrels are too cold. Tried firing off a few shots before bed time, but then the barrel is too hot. It's a no-win situation, but without her supporting me I wouldn't be able to buy ammo. I have to leave my assault weapons on the kitchen table.
No, she's just a serial liar and con artist who has ridden the coattails of her husband to a position of prominence.
My wife won't let me bring my assault weapons to bed. She says the barrels are too cold. Tried firing off a few shots before bed time, but then the barrel is too hot. It's a no-win situation, but without her supporting me I wouldn't be able to buy ammo. I have to leave my assault weapons on the kitchen table.
Do you leave a Tac-light on for them so they don't get lonely?
So the First Amendment should be limited to what is written on parchment, not modern computers, because the Founders couldn't anticipate the information age, and the speed information travels around the world?
These kids and their funders can make all the political impact they want. In order to actually achieve their goal of banning firearms, they'll have to make a big enough wave to get the 2nd repealed. The chances of that are pretty slim, so there isn't much to be afraid of here.
Pointing out the inconsistencies and logical fallacies of their protests doesn't mean that anyone is "scared" of their impact. It's simply a matter of disagreement, and hoping that at some point these kids learn how to think logically rather than react emotionally on the national stage. Nothing wrong with emotional reaction, especially in their situation, but arguing for legislation that would completely change this country based on that emotion is ridiculous.
While that may be true on it's face, they'll just legislate it out of existence for all practical purposes. Death from a thousand cuts if you will. The first cut will be so called "assault weapons" or "weapons of war". Once the terminology is set any and all weapons can fall under those categories. As just about every type and caliber of firearm was once used in war from single shot muskets to machine guns.
First they'll start by banning the sale, and grandfathering those weapons that were possessed before the date the ban is to take affect. There'll be another shooting and the next stage will be to register those grandfathered weapons. There'll be another shooting and the next step will be to surrender those weapons that have been legally registered. For those who refuse to register their weapons it's unlikely there would be door to door confiscation as the confiscators would have no idea who owns them. For those that have complied they would be notified by registered mail to turn over their weapons or face criminal prosecution.
But for those who have refused to register their weapons there would be no way in hell that they could ever use them for any legitimate purpose without taking the risk of criminal prosecution and incarceration. If their house ever caught fire or if the authorities were called for any reason and such weapons were discovered they would be arrested and prosecuted.
Obviously none of this will solve anything other than create a new class of criminals out of otherwise law abiding people. Criminals and the mentally deranged will always have access to firearms as they do controlled substances and the shootings will continue. Leaving the gun grabbers to move to another class of firearms. Bolt action rifles will be labeled as "sniper rifles" shotguns as "riot guns" revolvers both double and single action as "Saturday night specials" as they were before. It will be declared that none of these weapons serves any purpose in a civilized society and therefore should be banned. The process of banning them will repeat itself as it did with so called "assault weapons". At which point the only type of firearm that one may legally possess would be flintlocks.
The gun grabbers will still be claiming that they support the 2nd Amendment and that no one's 2nd Amendment rights have been forfeited as they can still possess the type of firearms that were available in the 1700's. After all if you can't kill a deer with a single shot you can't be much of a hunter according to them. We both know that the 2nd Amendment has nothing to do with hunting. But for them that's the only reason that they can justify owning a firearm. But make no mistake about it they can't stand hunters either. "Bubba's" if you will.
Barring all that they will make it so cumbersome and expensive to own a firearm that only the wealthy, the politically well connected and their cronies will be able to legally possess a firearm as it is now in cities such as New York. Of course the most vociferous gun grabbers, hypocrites as they are will have all the armed protection they desire. They'll obviously need all the protection they can get as they've thoroughly pi**ed off and criminalized tens of millions of their political enemies.
Political retribution is the only reason for gun control. What better way to punish your political enemies than to criminalize their otherwise legal possessions and activities? Cuomo made that quite clear when he boasted after the passage of NY's "Safe Act" and I'll paraphrase: "That people that do not think like him are not welcome in New York." Hillary Clinton labeled us as "deplorables" and Barack Obama "bitter clingers". Terms bandied about such as "trailer trash" and "stupid hicks" amongst other derogatory names are often heard. They call us "Muricans" in mockery. Their condescending attitude is repulsive.
Indeed we are their political enemies and are at war with their entire ideology. I don't think there's one God damn thing we agree on? It's customary that once any political party gains absolute power and control they'll do whatever it takes to crush their opponents as in any other dictatorship.
You people just can’t stand that these kids protesting after the school attack are having a huge political impact. Just look at Laura Ingram on Fox. She lashes out at one of the protesters with a nasty tweet and has lost 12 of her advertising sponsors. She says she is going on vacation next week. Haha. another Bill O’Reilly?
Actually, they're just parrots and disingenuous ones at that. What shows how disingenuous big Hogg and little Hogg (brother/sister) are is the fact that while they've been out bumping their gums about banning guns using their "right" to school safety as the reason they're now about all of the measures that were just put in place to make their school exactly what they demanded, SAFE.
Clear backpacks just like what are required to enter most public venues nowadays, as are metal detectors etc.
Their complaint? "We don't want to feel like we're in a prison".
These kids and their funders can make all the political impact they want. In order to actually achieve their goal of banning firearms, they'll have to make a big enough wave to get the 2nd repealed. The chances of that are pretty slim, so there isn't much to be afraid of here.
Pointing out the inconsistencies and logical fallacies of their protests doesn't mean that anyone is "scared" of their impact. It's simply a matter of disagreement, and hoping that at some point these kids learn how to think logically rather than react emotionally on the national stage. Nothing wrong with emotional reaction, especially in their situation, but arguing for legislation that would completely change this country based on that emotion is ridiculous.
The kids are working to vote out the pro-gun type Representatives and Senators who are too beholden to the NRA. THey will get rid of your Fairy Godfather, Wayne LaPierre!
Just wait and see in November. You do realize, from your Civics class, don’t you, that the 2nd Amendment does not have to be repealed for Congress to enact some sensible gun laws.
The kids are working to vote out the pro-gun type Representatives and Senators who are too beholden to the NRA. THey will get rid of your Fairy Godfather, Wayne LaPierre!
Ah, so if I think the 2nd Amendment is important I must be a supporter of the NRA in your mind. I've never been a member of the NRA, nor do I care a rodent's rectum about LaPierre.
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Just wait and see in November. You do realize, from your Civics class, don’t you, that the 2nd Amendment does not have to be repealed for Congress to enact some sensible gun laws.
Yes, I know you get warm fuzzy feelings when you think of the possibilities. How about we wait and see what the next set of elections bring, eh? So far, your sides' track record is pretty dismal across all fronts when it comes to controlling violence. Y'all seem to be dead set on banning guns, to the point of ignoring or denigrating any suggestion which might actually work simply because whatever measure it is doesn't ban guns.
Ah, so if I think the 2nd Amendment is important I must be a supporter of the NRA in your mind. I've never been a member of the NRA, nor do I care a rodent's rectum about LaPierre.
Yes, I know you get warm fuzzy feelings when you think of the possibilities. How about we wait and see what the next set of elections bring, eh? So far, your sides' track record is pretty dismal across all fronts when it comes to controlling violence. Y'all seem to be dead set on banning guns, to the point of ignoring or denigrating any suggestion which might actually work simply because whatever measure it is doesn't ban guns.
Guess most of us non-gun-nut people are concerned with staying alive by getting guns out of the hands of teen-age kids. Stopping manufacture of assault type weapons seems like a very good start. I NEVER said the guns you own should be confiscated, just registered, like you have to register your car. Scared of that, aren’t you?
Glad you don’t admire Wayne LaPierre. He seems like a real weird dude. Wish he’d get a decent haircut before his next TV appearance.
As for Dems winning the 2018 mid-terms, did you see the Dem who won the 10-Year Supreme Court seat in Wisconsin yesterday? Wow, Wisconsin is going left. Gotta love it. Even Paul Ryan is afraid of the #BigBlueWave...
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Bet some of them sleep with their assault weapons right next to them.
