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View Poll Results: If the U.S. is on the verge of losing in Afghanistan, should it try partitioning it?
Yes 3 8.82%
No 31 91.18%
Voters: 34. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 04-11-2018, 08:40 PM
 
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A country like that can not be partitioned, even if the locals wanted it. There would be perpetual border conflicts and incursions until they all beat the hell out of each other and the Taliban would control the ruins.
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Old 04-11-2018, 08:44 PM
 
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Afghanistan was a perfect opportunity to create a continuous war, there is no desire by the MIC to ever resolve the conflict, nor by US neocons. The US needs all the excuses in the world to maintain presence there.

Afghanistan is a collection of dozens of individual groups, and hundreds more sub-groups, partitioning it will not ever solve any issue as the area now cannot be secured, and making an imaginary line on a map will not change that.
I might agree with you on that. I am now wondering if the last two regimes deliberately destablized the Middle East.
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Old 04-11-2018, 08:45 PM
 
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Amazing, what a bunch of stupid people can do with AK-47's, against the 2 most powerful armies in the world.
Yes, which is why we shouldn't give up our guns. Cuz the US army, should they even choose to side with the Deep State, wouldn't have a prayer if we had enough one day and rose up against this corrupt government.
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Old 04-11-2018, 08:46 PM
 
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What we need to do is bomb the Taliban back to the 7th century and then leave. That's what we came there for anyway. Bush's democracy project was a failure, unless he wanted a destablized Middle East, which I'm stating to wonder.
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Old 04-11-2018, 08:49 PM
 
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Yes, which is why we shouldn't give up our guns. Cuz the US army, should they even choose to side with the Deep State, wouldn't have a prayer if we had enough one day and rose up against this corrupt government.
Believe me. You are not a mujahadeen. Chances are one of them is worth ten or more average US Gun nuts.

Really.

You see - they don't care if they die. They want to die. Now, maybe you can speak for yourself and claim a death wish, but I can certainly say that my many gun nut friends don't want to leave this world. Things must be really bad on your end if you want to. I hope you can get some help.

The US soldiers in WWII first joked about their German and Japanese enemies. Very soon after the laughing stopped, they realized that things were not a joke and they gained immediate respect for the fighting abilities of both.

Oh, there is no "we". If there is, show your faces and march on DC peacefully so we can tremble.
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Old 04-11-2018, 09:29 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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Believe me. You are not a mujahadeen. Chances are one of them is worth ten or more average US Gun nuts.
Because they were funded and trained by the CIA.
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Old 04-11-2018, 11:11 PM
 
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Because they were funded and trained by the CIA.
No, it is because a lot of them have been in a continuous state of war/conflict their entire lives, multi-generational state of warfare, it is all they know, all they grew up with. Life is expendable and cheap to them; no courts, human rights, empathy, just kill or be killed, do what you can to survive and for your clan/family/ideology. They have been living in rather poor conditions their entire lives, they are not losing their AC, cable TV, and high quality of life; armed conflict has become their way of life.
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Old 04-11-2018, 11:57 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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No, it is because a lot of them have been in a continuous state of war/conflict their entire lives, multi-generational state of warfare, it is all they know, all they grew up with. Life is expendable and cheap to them; no courts, human rights, empathy, just kill or be killed, do what you can to survive and for your clan/family/ideology. They have been living in rather poor conditions their entire lives, they are not losing their AC, cable TV, and high quality of life; armed conflict has become their way of life.
The Mujahideen were trained and funded by the CIA. It's why they were such amazing soldiers.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Cyclone

Your other points are correct, however.
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Old 04-12-2018, 08:58 AM
 
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I have a sneaky feeling the Afghan poppie fields have something to do with it, we now have US troops standing guard over the fields and mysteriously many US cities and states have major heroin epidemics going on right now....not too much of a stretch to see whats going on there.
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Old 04-12-2018, 09:11 AM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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The CIA has a long tradition of profiting from the drug wars, it was cocaine in the 80's, its heroin today.
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