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Old 04-29-2018, 11:36 AM
 
Location: Honolulu/DMV Area/NYC
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Would you leave?
Would I leave? No. Its a hell of a deal. But I also feel that the law should not allow for such a low rent either. Still, because the law does, I can't fault the woman for taking advantage of the law.
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Old 04-29-2018, 11:38 AM
 
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Is the government subsidizing her $100 a month rent? Not to mention you do not know her situation in how easy or hard it would be for her to move. And even that doesn't matter. The law matters.

Personal responsibility? Her responsibility is to pay her rent, the landlord's responsibility is to respect that.

In the 80's the news was filled with articles of how Donald Trump harassed the tenants living in the rent control apartments he purchased in order to get them ousted.

Seeing as how people today (they weren't then) seem to be okay with this kind of business dealings, just goes to show me how it is we have a mongrel for a president.
That wasn't your implication with your For Whom the Bell Tolls quote. It was directed at me and I responded. My original point was that rent control is an abomination. Sure it's the law but it is a flawed law IMO. And what does the President have to do with this?
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Old 04-29-2018, 11:41 AM
Status: "It Can't Rain All The Time" (set 28 days ago)
 
Location: North Pacific
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That wasn't your implication with your For Whom the Bell Tolls quote. It was directed at me and I responded. My original point was that rent control is an abomination. Sure it's the law but it is a flawed law IMO. And what does the President have to do with this?
I did that because I believe we have to 'try' and put ourselves in other's positions. I could have easily said, walk a mile in their shoes.

You think you would leave, but until it happens, until bell the tolls, you don't know. If it did happen to you may rethink just how flawed the law is ...

PS: with this kind of thinking the little man will never get a chance to move up in life. One thinks they can meet their financial responsibilities, then bam something happens that they did nothing to cause, but it happens just the same, and they find themselves back in the place in which they began ... struggling to make ends meet.
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Old 04-29-2018, 11:47 AM
 
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I did that because I believe we have to 'try' and put ourselves in other's positions. I could have easily said, walk a mile in their shoes.

You think you would leave, but until it happens, until bell the tolls, you don't know. If it did happen to you may rethink just how flawed the law is ...
The law is flawed because it is an egregious government control on private property and livelihood of others regardless of the empathy one may feel for the persons involved. A government control that keeps rent of an apartment worth $1500 at $100 is egregious. It does not consider wage or retirement increases that occur over time. Keeping rent at a decades old rate is abuse of power.
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Old 04-29-2018, 11:47 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles (Native)
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This is an article from back in 2015 , her renting it out on Airbnb should of been grounds for her being evicted . But I guess no matter what she does she wouldn’t have to leave because of the crazy laws in NYC

https://nypost.com/2015/08/02/disput...led-apartment/
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Old 04-29-2018, 11:49 AM
 
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This is really crazy.

This is something that I would expect in socialist countries but how is this going on in America .
Might I firstly ask as to what markers you are using to describe OTHER countries as socialist while at the same time excluding the U.S.?

The U.S. has more welfare systems in place than most countries the uneducated choose to refer to as "socialist"!
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Old 04-29-2018, 11:49 AM
 
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Rent control is a poor solution to a real problem. In many cases the "market rate" is no more natural than the rent controlled rates though. Price manipulation is being used to solve problems caused by other forms of price manipulation.
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Old 04-29-2018, 11:51 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles (Native)
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The law is flawed because it is an egregious government control on private property and livelihood of others regardless of the empathy one may feel for the persons involved. A government control that keeps rent of an apartment worth $1500 of rent at $100 is egregious. It does not consider wage or retirement increases that occur over time. Keeping rent at a decades old rate is abuse of power.
I had a relative living in the Middle East for a while . They paid market rents but there was a lady there in a rent controlled apartment paying hardly anything . I think it was like $10 a month or something the rents were based on the prices from the 1960s or something . She drove a Mercedes and was a pain in the butt for the landlord complaining about things all the time .

We shouldn’t aspire to become like 3rd world middle eastern countries .
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Old 04-29-2018, 11:53 AM
 
Location: Colorado Springs
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Might I firstly ask as to what markers you are using to describe OTHER countries as socialist while at the same time excluding the U.S.?

The U.S. has more welfare systems in place than most countries the uneducated choose to refer to as "socialist"!
Welfare isn't a socialist concept its a way for the ruling elites the bourgeoisie to keep the proles in line and prevent a revolution. Socialism is where the means of production are democratically controlled.
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Old 04-29-2018, 11:54 AM
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Location: North Pacific
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The law is flawed because it is an egregious government control on private property and livelihood of others regardless of the empathy one may feel for the persons involved. A government control that keeps rent of an apartment worth $1500 at $100 is egregious. It does not consider wage or retirement increases that occur over time. Keeping rent at a decades old rate is abuse of power.
So is keeping the labor wage down and not putting a cap on business services and sundries.

We live in a debt based economics world. And your upset, because someone caught a break?
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