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Old 05-20-2018, 08:32 PM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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And yet for the first 20 pages of this thread, you couldn't come up with a single instance where it actually did.
Catalonia in the 30s.
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Old 05-20-2018, 08:34 PM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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I live outside the syndicate but right next door. I don't pay attention to whatever goes on over there.

I collect rainwater in barrels for my own use. One day the syndicate's factory catches on fire and the flames are too fierce to fight through to get to their own water. A terrible oversight by them indeed.

Can the syndicate raid my home and take the water?
The UNION can ask to borrow your water if all public sources within reach are depleted.
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Old 05-20-2018, 08:38 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Catalonia in the 30s.
if it didn't last... then it wasn't successful
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Old 05-20-2018, 09:14 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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The UNION can ask to borrow your water if all public sources within reach are depleted.
And if I refuse to answer the door or answer and say "no" what happens?
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Old 05-21-2018, 09:05 AM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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And if I refuse to answer the door or answer and say "no" what happens?
If NO ONE else has any and all water sources are depleted then you have no grounds to let someone die with resources that aren’t yours, or with the water that serves a base (immediate) need for the community.
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Old 05-21-2018, 11:51 AM
 
Location: Madison, WI
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If NO ONE else has any and all water sources are depleted then you have no grounds to let someone die with resources that aren’t yours, or with the water that serves a base (immediate) need for the community.
So they'll take it by force... Unless you're just stating that the water belongs to the collective, but they won't do anything about it.

The whole thing hinges on who the rightful owner is. We say it's the person who put in the effort to collect and store the water, and you say it's the collective, on behalf of those who need the water - which we'd call a state.
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Old 05-21-2018, 01:06 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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So they'll take it by force... Unless you're just stating that the water belongs to the collective, but they won't do anything about it.

The whole thing hinges on who the rightful owner is. We say it's the person who put in the effort to collect and store the water, and you say it's the collective, on behalf of those who need the water - which we'd call a state.
Yep.

Clear violation of the non-aggression principle.

If my house is on fire and I can't get to my water I would hope that my neighbor watering his garden would throw me a bone and help out.

Under NO circumstances is he obligated to help me though and I can't physically take the hose from him.

That is violent slavery.
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Old 05-21-2018, 01:07 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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If NO ONE else has any and all water sources are depleted then you have no grounds to let someone die with resources that aren’t yours, or with the water that serves a base (immediate) need for the community.
Slavery. Pure and simple.
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Old 05-21-2018, 02:03 PM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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So they'll take it by force... Unless you're just stating that the water belongs to the collective, but they won't do anything about it.

The whole thing hinges on who the rightful owner is. We say it's the person who put in the effort to collect and store the water, and you say it's the collective, on behalf of those who need the water - which we'd call a state.
The collective doesn’t own anything, everyone does. If water is needed to help four people with base needs vs. one, the four win out as together they have greater claim on water ( If there is NO other public water source and the pipelines are destroyed).
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Old 05-21-2018, 02:07 PM
 
Location: alexandria, VA
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The collective doesn’t own anything, everyone does. If water is needed to help four people with base needs vs. one, the four win out as together they have greater claim on water ( If there is NO other public water source and the pipelines are destroyed).
I'm curious. Do you have a job? I notice you seem to respond to every post within minutes. That wouldn't leave much time for bringing home the bacon.
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