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Wait, you own something while you're using it, but the second you set it down you don't? I seem to recall this argument among five year olds, "move your feet lose your seat", No, "I didnt see your name on it", yeah, that was it.
Should this conversation be in the philosophy forum , since you aren't actually discussing reality or Marxism. It's more of a , hippys surrounding a bong, thing right?
If you notice I have engaged him this whole time because of this fact. It's hysterical.
When does an item lose ownership? Do I lose ownership of the hammer when I set it down to pick up a nail (which I want to pound in with said hammer in a few seconds)? If I put the hammer in my pocket because I'm using it periodically throughout the day is it not mine to use at any time because I've never relinquished it to be claimed?
I'll say the word again: bonkers. A completely bonkers mindset and system. My hope is future generations read this transcript.
Thats odd, many early men were found with thier tools and trinkets strapped to thier bodies, since the continuously carried them, or stored them carefully in thier living spaces, as not to lose them.
Thats odd, many early men were found with thier tools and trinkets strapped to thier bodies, since the continuously carried them, or stored them carefully in thier living spaces, as not to lose them.
Public utilities are separate from tools.
Nonetheless they are all public property and there is no insinuation that during or before the neolithic era ownership of goods beyond ones physical reach was comprehended or accepted.
Marx didn't believe in the state, and production was based upon the ability of the individual, not demand from the state.
But evidently you don't know much about Marx.
Oh, my. Marx believed in the forceful destruction of what he deemed class structure as well as abolishing freedom to possess and enjoy the fruits of labor.
Are you very young, or is communism a new topic to you?
Wait, you own something while you're using it, but the second you set it down you don't? I seem to recall this argument among five year olds, "move your feet lose your seat", No, "I didnt see your name on it", yeah, that was it.
Should this conversation be in the philosophy forum , since you aren't actually discussing reality or Marxism. It's more of a , hippys surrounding a bong, thing right?
No. Understanding that public resources don't belong to an individual changes the nature of human interaction.
The examples you use are defined by a capitalist society of greed and control over the largest amount of resources.
Nonetheless they are all public property and there is no insinuation that during or before the neolithic era ownership of goods beyond ones physical reach was comprehended or accepted.
So once a man masters fulfilling his basic needs he has to go to sleep until the next day?
Oh, my. Marx believed in the forceful destruction of what he deemed class structure as well as abolishing freedom to possess and enjoy the fruits of labor.
Are you very young, or is communism a new topic to you?
Ad hominem attacks won't get you anywhere in a discussion.
Marx first looked to the Paris communes as what socialism would be, not authoritarian governments that controlled the working class.
Yes he had "suggested" the first step would be the state abolishing private control but that was only a means, not an end.
I prefer the model set forces in Catalonia, allowing for a worker run society directly from a capitalist run society.
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