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I am a Christian. I support separating children from their parents at the border 69 20.29%
I am a Christian. I do not support separating children from their parents at the border 80 23.53%
I am not a Christian. I support separating children from their parents at the border 59 17.35%
I am not a Christian. I do not support separating children from their parents at the border 132 38.82%
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Old 05-08-2018, 05:33 PM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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I couldn't rep you again but...

My former next door neighbors were legal immigrants. The husband came here as a child. He told me that his parents waited 10 years to get permission to come here legally. I said to him, "Illegal immigration must make you angry." He said "yes".

Another former neighbor and her husband came here legally from South America. The wife told me that she doesn't like to see signage in Spanish because, in her words, in America you speak English. Needless to say, they were no fans of illegal aliens.
And the guys I'm talking about are on the cleaning crew in our building. I buy them lunch from time to time and we've had this discussion. They're from Mexico, have people waiting to do it right, and they're ticked off. And they're decent enough so they won't let that change their moral fiber by having their relatives come illegally.

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Meanwhile, employers can't find employees. The USA birthrate has dropped to the point it NEEDS immigration if the economy is to grow.

But, oh no. The alt-right and current government are on an anti-immigration crusade. Screw the need of those that will work for lower wages, screw those that want to make a better life and are NEEDED here.

They're brown, and don't look like us. We don't want them.
Reading comprehension problem? This isn't an anti-immigration crusade. Keep repeating that though because it shows your level of intelligence on the issue.

And nobody has a problem with brown-skinned people entering the country legally, not to mention, it's not just brown-skinned people entering illegally. Please educate yourself.

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There has to be more to the story, as Quebec has one of the broader coverages of all provinces, and hernias are certainly covered as a medical necessary procedure. If you get a chance, ask him how come, as something doesn't make sense.

No one in my family ever has paid any extra, and I've had the misfortune of a 3.5 month stay in an acute care hospital.
Why are you weighing in on illegal immigration in America?

 
Old 05-08-2018, 05:39 PM
 
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Yes, they are. Trafficking children across international borders illegally is smuggling.
This is utter nonsense. We're talking about their own kids. trying to wordsmith into something else like this? You really have no shame in your urge to punish parents by traumatizing their children.
 
Old 05-08-2018, 05:46 PM
 
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This is utter nonsense. We're talking about their own kids. trying to wordsmith into something else like this? You really have no shame in your urge to punish parents by traumatizing their children.
Really? And how can you prove that they are their children? Can you be 100% sure that the adults weren't paid to smuggle them into the US?

Why would any decent parent put their kids through this knowing it is a dangerous thing to do? If they really wanted asylum, why didn't they apply to stay in Mexico? Don't you think it is traumatizing to the kids to be dragged through more than one country?
 
Old 05-08-2018, 06:05 PM
 
Location: Posting from my space yacht.
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Meanwhile, employers can't find employees. The USA birthrate has dropped to the point it NEEDS immigration if the economy is to grow.
I thought robots were supposed to take all our jobs? Besides I don't see how unskilled third world labor working for slave wages helps the economy anyway. All it does is lower the standard of living for all who cannot afford to hide in walled off communities.
 
Old 05-08-2018, 06:15 PM
 
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I thought robots were supposed to take all our jobs? Besides I don't see how unskilled third world labor working for slave wages helps the economy anyway. All it does is lower the standard of living for all who cannot afford to hide in walled off communities.
Good luck finding fruits, vegetables, and getting lawn service.
 
Old 05-08-2018, 06:17 PM
 
Location: Virginia
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I don't care who wrote it. It was taught to us at school over and over again how USA is a land of immigrants, one's who wanted to build a better life. It was taught to show how welcoming the USA was to those rejected in their own lands. And so were you. Don't pretend you were not. (unless you are a millenial, and then all bets are off.)
Did your school also teach you it's OK to break the law? Mine didn't.
 
Old 05-08-2018, 06:19 PM
 
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Good luck finding fruits, vegetables, and getting lawn service.
It’s no problem. John Deere takes care of my acreage and there is no luck involved in the other.
 
Old 05-08-2018, 06:20 PM
 
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Really? And how can you prove that they are their children? Can you be 100% sure that the adults weren't paid to smuggle them into the US?

Why would any decent parent put their kids through this knowing it is a dangerous thing to do? If they really wanted asylum, why didn't they apply to stay in Mexico? Don't you think it is traumatizing to the kids to be dragged through more than one country?
Pathetic. Seriously. No one rational is buying this line of nonsense. Please quit embarrassing yourself.
 
Old 05-08-2018, 06:49 PM
 
Location: Posting from my space yacht.
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Good luck finding fruits, vegetables, and getting lawn service.
San Francisco is full of fruits, there are lots of vegetables in Washington and my son is getting old enough to mow the lawn.
 
Old 05-08-2018, 06:56 PM
 
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Pathetic. Seriously. No one rational is buying this line of nonsense. Please quit embarrassing yourself.
I'm not embarrassing myself. After all, do some googling. You will see that I'm not the one who should be embarrassed.

You seriously doubt that illegals hand over their kids to the coyotes? Wow...just...wow. If you think that never happens, then you are really naive.

I noticed that you didn't answer any of the questions I posed and instead opted for name-calling. In other words, you have no credible argument.
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