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I am a Christian. I support separating children from their parents at the border 69 20.29%
I am a Christian. I do not support separating children from their parents at the border 80 23.53%
I am not a Christian. I support separating children from their parents at the border 59 17.35%
I am not a Christian. I do not support separating children from their parents at the border 132 38.82%
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Old 06-18-2018, 11:51 AM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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You forgot this too.
Evelyn Rodriguez, whose daughter Kayla Cuevas was killed by MS-13 gang members on Long Island in 2016

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MS-13 started in Los Angeles and grew in California prisons...the people applying for asylum are not MS-13 so get over it, they wouldn't go through that kind of hassle, there are easier ways to enter the US and they aren't a bit worried about having legal residency status.

It's funny how dear leader is so obsessed with MS-13, he seems to think it is the only dangerous gang in the world. I guess that's what happens when you live in a bubble and surround yourself with sycophants who only tell you what you want to hear.

 
Old 06-18-2018, 11:54 AM
 
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MS-13 started in Los Angeles and grew in California prisons...the people applying for asylum are not MS-13 so get over it, they wouldn't go through that kind of hassle, there are easier ways to enter the US and they aren't a bit worried about having legal residency status.

It's funny how dear leader is so obsessed with MS-13, he seems to think it is the only dangerous gang in the world. I guess that's what happens when you live in a bubble and surround yourself with sycophants who only tell you what you want to hear.

You have no idea who these people are so you get over it. Are you down there at the border waiting to supply their needs?
 
Old 06-18-2018, 11:54 AM
 
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MS-13 started in Los Angeles and grew in California prisons...the people applying for asylum are not MS-13 so get over it, they wouldn't go through that kind of hassle, there are easier ways to enter the US and they aren't a bit worried about having legal residency status.

It's funny how dear leader is so obsessed with MS-13, he seems to think it is the only dangerous gang in the world. I guess that's what happens when you live in a bubble and surround yourself with sycophants who only tell you what you want to hear.
Thanks for this.

That's what I don't get. MS-13's increasing violence is not related at all to the borders. It is now because of AMERICANS joining the gang.

We have all kinds of gangs in the USA. The shooting at the art festival is believed to be a gang related incident. Why don't we name those gangs and rant about them.

MS-13 gangs are brutally disgustingly violent. And they should be addressed like an violent criminals.

But blaming it all on the border -- that's just a catch phrase to get you all hot and bothered for a wall -- meanwhile the gang is growing on this side of the wall
 
Old 06-18-2018, 11:54 AM
 
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B*** S***! They can apply for refugee status in Mexico. Which is what they were supposed to do in the first place, instead of traveling through MX to the land of free ****.
Once again...there is no law in the US requiring that refugees apply in the 'first safe country' that is an EU rule and only applies to EU countries. Google is your friend
 
Old 06-18-2018, 11:57 AM
 
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Once again...there is no law in the US requiring that refugees apply in the 'first safe country' that is an EU rule and only applies to EU countries. Google is your friend

Is there any law disallowing that as an administration policy?
 
Old 06-18-2018, 11:57 AM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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Thanks for this.

That's what I don't get. MS-13's increasing violence is not related at all to the borders. It is now because of AMERICANS joining the gang.

We have all kinds of gangs in the USA. The shooting at the art festival is believed to be a gang related incident. Why don't we name those gangs and rant about them.

MS-13 gangs are brutally disgustingly violent. And they should be addressed like an violent criminals.

But blaming it all on the border -- that's just a catch phrase to get you all hot and bothered for a wall -- meanwhile the gang is growing on this side of the wall
Proving that it is not the illegals themselves but their children who are the problem. That is even more reason to lock them up now and make sure they never get loose in our society. Those crying children on TV are the gang bangers of tomorrow.
 
Old 06-18-2018, 11:57 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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And hundreds of times more illegally cross borders around the globe and they are NOT seperated from their kids...
They're deported. I'm good with that. Deport all the illegal aliens.
 
Old 06-18-2018, 11:58 AM
 
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There are no oppressive regimes that are not the responsibility of the citizens who allowed them. They exist with the support of those who agree with collectivism, socialism, unionism, and communism. When they end as they must, with societal disintegration, it is up to them to fix it. Not to come here, and bring the nanny state mentality to our voting booths in order to ultimately destroy us in the same way they allowed the destruction of their own home. Fix your home, don't bring the destruction elsewhere.

You have no idea what you're talking about. There are oppressive regimes in latinamerica and most are backed by the u.s. with american arms and money. The reason their social and justice system don't work is because their priority is deregulation; they have to follow fmi economic rules just like greece, those who protest are assassinated or imprisoned. And when they do manage to get in power a u.s. supported coup reverse everything. There are two exceptions, cuba and venezuela, where coups have not worked, when coups fail they imposed heavy sanctions to destroy their economies.
 
Old 06-18-2018, 12:00 PM
 
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Laws are null and void when foreign invaders hack them and game them in order to facilitate penetration of our sovereign borders.
Oh? Can you point us to the Supreme Court ruling that agrees with you?

Hmmm.... didn't think so.
 
Old 06-18-2018, 12:00 PM
 
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First off, there's been a "tent city" in use for many years in AZ heat without serious injury so you can drop that B.S..
Secondly, all on has to do to avoid all of this is to NOT sneak in to the U.S..
Third, why yes we CAN in fact solve that part of the problem. Zero tolerance, E-Verify and no more "Catch and Release". Once the illegals get the message that A. You WILL be prosecuted. B. You will NOT be able to work illegally anymore. C. Once convicted of a crime your ability/ideas to get citizenship are crushed they will STOP coming.

The problem is all of the hand wringers (and corporations they hate) want a huge flow of peasants but for different reasons. Both are WRONG.

Simple right?
How many children were in that tent city? Many of these children are toddlers and infants who are far less capable of dealing with extreme heat than adults. The adults are not being sent to these cities and are probably being sent to places that have better living conditions than the children.
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