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Old 05-08-2018, 05:04 PM
 
Location: Long Island, N.Y.
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Originally Posted by Dane_in_LA View Post
Can't help but notice that neither of those comments have anything to do with the wisdom of Trump's action, either.
Google the US Constitution.

 
Old 05-08-2018, 05:05 PM
 
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If that is the case they would be non compliant.
Well played, sir.
 
Old 05-08-2018, 05:06 PM
 
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Originally Posted by SeaMaj7 View Post
Google the US Constitution.
"It was legal." Absolutely. Point conceded. No debate. Trump had authority. Was it smart?
 
Old 05-08-2018, 05:08 PM
 
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The primary source of oil in the US is the US.
I know. I was being flippant. Shouldn't have been.
 
Old 05-08-2018, 05:09 PM
 
Location: FL
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Originally Posted by Ponderosa View Post
I was wondering why Trump moved on this today. It is his theatrical style to wait until the last minute leaving everyone in suspense on weighty matters. Now we know. Michael Avenatti has released documents today alleging that Cohen received $500,000 from a Russian oligarch in the early months of Trump's presidency. We will recall that Cohen testified he has only two clients - Trump and Hannity. So, why are Russians handing Cohen hundreds of thousands of dollars? This could be the key that breaks the case wide open. Trump is obviously trying to deflect on this damaging development.
I do have to say that he is good at that game.
 
Old 05-08-2018, 05:09 PM
 
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Why? We got a ton of other countries on board for this agreement, and it keeps Iran from being able to create nuclear weapons. We trash this deal and we demonstrate to the world that you can't make a deal with us and have us hold up our end.
You are deluding yourself if you believe Iran is not pursuing nukes because of any deal.
 
Old 05-08-2018, 05:10 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Originally Posted by SeaMaj7 View Post
Your inept reply ignores the FACT that Obama's "deal" was Constitutionally meaningless.

Why do the leftist zombies lack common sense?!?!
It was a reasonable solution, Trump has no plan as usual maybe you can help out with the master plan beyond withdrawal since it was such a great idea.
 
Old 05-08-2018, 05:11 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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Originally Posted by Chicano3000X View Post
I hear different takes. People say its good and other say we effed up.

Eidt: Iran Deal..
It's mostly propaganda-based, relying heavily on disinformation, and in the grand scheme of things, it's largely irrelevant.

For example, you're never told how the US became aware of Iran's nuclear energy and weapons programs.

Iran went to the Bush Administration in February 2002, in confidence, and discussed it.

So, the idea that Iran was keeping it a giant secret is complete bull-****.

Why did Iran approach the Bush Administration in February 2003? Probably as a peace offering, in an attempt to normalize relationships.

What did Bush and his Administration do? They characterized Iran as part of the "Axis of Evil" and then beat Iran over the head with its admission of a nuclear weapons program, that Iran had halted.

Even though the National Intelligence Estimate reported in 2007 that Iran had completely ceased its nuclear weapons program by 2003, Bush continued to beat Iran over the head with it.

Iran continued with its nuclear energy program, but US Media constantly uses the propaganda and disinformation phrase "nuclear program." Iran has a very real need for nuclear energy.

8,000 years ago, the Iranian Plateau was a lush paradise; a virtual Garden of Eden. But, climate change has turned it into an arid region, not capable of agriculture like it was 8,000 years. Irrigation will change all that, but irrigation requires water, and that requires a lot of desalinization plants along the Persian Gulf, which are extremely energy intensive, meaning they require a lot of electricity.

The dual-reactors at Bushwehr are designed to do exactly that: provide energy for the desalinization plants.

Bringing that water to the Iranian Plateau will create a lot of agricultural jobs and help lower their perennial 20% unemployment rate, creating a larger Middle Class, who will insist on reforms leading to a more democratic form of government.

At the same time, Iran can shut down its oil and gas-fired power plants, diverting more oil to the World Market, or generate more petro-chemical products.

It's a Win-Win for everyone.

The propaganda and disinformation by the US Media is also designed to instill fear, leading you to believe that Iran will be launching 750 kt nuclear warheads on the US with their intercontinental ballistic missiles.

That's pure fantasy.

Iran, like Pakistan, doesn't have weapons grade Plutonium, and without it, Iran can't make a "bomb" bigger than 5 kt.

Sure, in theory, Iran could produce a 20 kt warhead using U-235, but the only thing they could do is stare at it. Iran has no aircraft capable of carrying a warhead that heavy, and no missile capable of carrying that big of a payload.

It requires significantly more U-235 to build the same size warhead using weapons grade Plutonium. The reasons for that are the fact that U-235 is more stable, making it harder to fission. All radioactive elements are inherently unstable, but weapons grade Plutonium is highly unstable and spontaneously fissions at a rate of 20,000 fissions per second per kilogram, while U-235 spontaneously fissions at a rate of 66 fissions per second per kilogram. Weapons grade Plutonium produces on average 3 neutrons per fission, while U-235 only produces 2 neutrons. Neutrons are characterized as moving at slow, moderate or fast speeds, and a neutron of any speed can fission weapons grade Plutonium, but it requires a neutron of moderate or fast speed to fission U-235. The area on the nucleus of U-235 that must be hit by a neutron to cause fission is narrower than the area on the nucleus of weapons grade Plutonium.

That's why the US, UK, France, Israel, China, Russia, India and North Korea use weapons grade Plutonium, instead of U-235.

If North Korea didn't have weapons grade Plutonium, they wouldn't be a threat to the US. If Kim had only U-235, the best he could do is a small yield warhead, about 5 kt, on a short range missile. That would certainly be a threat to South Korea, but not the US.

So, if Iran produced nuclear weapons, they would be very small yields, about 5 kt and less, used only for defensive purposes, which is the real issue here.

The US intends to initiate conflict with Iran, and it doesn't want Iran to have the ability to use those weapons in defense.
 
Old 05-08-2018, 05:11 PM
 
Location: Long Island, N.Y.
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Originally Posted by Dane_in_LA View Post
"It was legal." Absolutely. Point conceded. No debate. Trump had authority. Was it smart?
Not placating to Islamist fanatics.
 
Old 05-08-2018, 05:11 PM
 
Location: FL
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Originally Posted by TreeBeard View Post
The word of the USA is now sh*t. Trump is succeeding in making this country in his image: corrupt, inept and duplicitous.
and it didn't take him long either.
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