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If those few who have and want them won't be responsible with them it is only logical that they should be taken away from you who can't handle the responsibility.
Remember when anti-gunners ridiculed anyone who said they are coming for your guns? Well, matter of fact they ARE coming for your guns. They just couldn't hold back any more. They finally realized it is not AR-15 that's killing people. A 12 gauge does just fine too.
"So now I’m angry. Now I’m finished trying to reason with you. So now I, a guy who was ambivalent about guns just a few years ago, want to take your guns away. All of them."
They?? The ubiquitous, ever present they!
Some dude gets pissed..writes an article..and all of a sudden he speaks for 200+ million people?
C'mon man!
The 2nd amendment is not is danger. The fact that the NRA has sold this false claim to credulous Righties is one of the greatest boondoggles in modern times.
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Except guns are actually part of the problem. Backpacks are not.
If they were so easy to make, I don't think we'd have all these bombs that failed to go off during mass shootings. People use guns because they're a reliable way to kill large numbers of people. Also with bombs, even if you figure out how to make one, theres the chance that it'll go off accidently, killing you before you get a chance to kill others. With a him, its just a simple grab snd go shoot.
A kid is not going to be able to drive a car through the hallways of their school, killing students who are sitting in the classrooms. Most schools are built so that fires wouldn't spread quickly. They also have sprinklers and alarms that could help get everyone out safely.
Every thing you are saying is just excuses.
Backpacks sure would be a problem if they are used to hide weapons, the FL shooter was banned from from having a backpack, there must have been a reason for that.
If they didn't have guns then they will turn to alternatives, including homemade bombs.
Why do people automatically go to the "they can't drive a car through the hallways", no they can't but there are many places around the schools where large numbers of kids gather - campuses, school sports fields/playgrounds, school bus loading/unloading zones, etc. -- generally easy access for vehicles in those areas with, generally, far more kids gathered around in one small area than there typically is in a single classroom.
Killers will always find a way to kill!
Dreaming up excuses makes people look desperate in pushing their agenda.
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Fire alarms do nothing to put out a fire, all it does is let the fire department know.
Sprinklers may work, if they are actually working, heck, half the time it seems that schools can't even get their heating/cooling systems to work.
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The Happyland Fire in1990 killed 87 people with what was a dollars worth of gasoline at the time, a container and either a match or cigarette lighter.
Exactly. But gun grabbers don't care about deaths by any other means except by guns
Backpacks sure would be a problem if they are used to hide weapons, the FL shooter was banned from from having a backpack, there must have been a reason for that.
But even with a clear backpack, a gun can be hidden. Wrap it in a sweater, stick it between books, or even just stick it in a jacket pocket, or in the waistband of pants.
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Why do people automatically go to the "they can't drive a car through the hallways", no they can't but there are many places around the schools where large numbers of kids gather - campuses, school sports fields/playgrounds, school bus loading/unloading zones, etc. -- generally easy access for vehicles in those areas with, generally, far more kids gathered around in one small area than there typically is in a single classroom.
Fields have gates and fences around them.
High Schools don't typically have playgrounds
Buses don't park that far away from each other, not enough room for a car to get through
Plus anytime there are a large number of students in a parking lot, there are probably a lot of cars either parked or driving around, so there isn't a quick and easy access to large amount of students like there is inside a building.
Exactly. But gun grabbers don't care about deaths by any other means except by guns
You're trying to compare a school to an illegal 2-story club, that had only one door and no fire escape. That place was a death trap, and was only a matyer of time before such a tragedy occurred.
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But even with a clear backpack, a gun can be hidden. Wrap it in a sweater, stick it between books, or even just stick it in a jacket pocket, or in the waistband of pants.
"stick it between books"
Lol, a gun is not a thin piece of paper that two books can hide.
Think someone won't notice a sweater wrapped around bulky object?
'jacket pocket / waistband'
Has nothing to do with a backpack.
Install metal detectors.
Since you seem to think it would be very easy to hide a gun, why was there an outrage over girls having a feminine product in a clear backpack? Outrage just to outrage? It would be far easier to hide a tampon than a gun. Many pencil cases would hide a tampon, but not a gun.
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Fields have gates and fences around them.
High Schools don't typically have playgrounds
Buses don't park that far away from each other, not enough room for a car to get through
Gates are not always shut. Even if your car doesn't have what it takes to go through a piece of chain link doesn't mean other cars have that problem.
Schools for older kids have sports fields and playgrounds for younger kids ...."school sports fields/playgrounds"
Buses are at the curb, kids are on the sidewalk, usually beyond the sidewalk is grass .. you're saying a killer won't want to drive on sidewalks or grass?(killers who pay attention to 'don't drive on sidewalks' and 'keep off the grass' signs-that's rich)
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Plus anytime there are a large number of students in a parking lot, there are probably a lot of cars either parked or driving around, so there isn't a quick and easy access to large amount of students like there is inside a building.
Why would a killer try to drive through a busy school parking lot? I never even bothered to mention parking lots, it's just stupid.
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You're trying to compare a school to an illegal 2-story club, that had only one door and no fire escape. That place was a death trap, and was only a matyer of time before such a tragedy occurred.
Schools are built with safety in mind.
A fire set to kill people is still a fire set to kill, no matter where the fire is set.
A fire set to kill people is still a fire set to kill, no matter where the fire is set.
Have you noticed that they always make excuses for when other means are used to kill people besides guns? They just can't accept the fact that those who are determined to kill will always find the means.
All they care about is when guns are used. Pipe bombs, fertilizer, pressure cookers, vehicles, even box cutters are acceptable and there's no effort to regulate them. It doesn't suit their agenda which is to abolish the 2nd Amendment, ban and confiscate every civilian held firearm in the United States. To make it easier for them to establish a socialist aristocracy of which they have absolute power and control.
Have you noticed that they always make excuses for when other means are used to kill people besides guns? They just can't accept the fact that those who are determined to kill will always find the means.
All they care about is when guns are used. Pipe bombs, fertilizer, pressure cookers, vehicles, even box cutters are acceptable and there's no effort to regulate them. It doesn't suit their agenda which is to abolish the 2nd Amendment, ban and confiscate every civilian held firearm in the United States. To make it easier for them to establish a socialist aristocracy of which they have absolute power and control.
This time was a shotgun and revolver.... I'm sure that short circuited a few. Being gun experts that don't own any.
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