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Old 05-23-2018, 08:16 AM
 
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The income cap on current workers needs to be removed for both FICA and Medicare....this will fully fund both of these programs and will allow Medicare for all.
So we (you) would like higher paid individuals to foot the bill for this?
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Old 05-23-2018, 08:17 AM
 
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President Trump's empty promises (lies)
Dear OP,

The above is how much of your diatribe I read. Then I realized you aren't a serious person. Rather, you are a leftist who cares about attacking non-leftists.

NO serious person thinks ACA was wonderful. No serious person thinks what the congressional republicans passed is what Mr. Trump wanted.

BUT that's not what you want to talk about. YOU want to attack non-leftists. so here is the thing. you are a hypocrite with no credibility on the subject. ACA BROKE a failing system and DEMS PREVENTED any kind of fix to this broken system.


so go stuff your long lying post in a trashcan somewhere and light it on fire.


Sincerely,


The NON-Leftists
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Old 05-23-2018, 08:17 AM
 
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We dont need Medicare for all. Its a system that has many flaws and in my experience it stinks. For starters ,We need a health ins system that has buying power for drugs, yes. We need a medical system where hospitals are fair in their pricing structure. We need a medical system where the dr looks at the whole patient not only the age, disease process etc. we need a medical system where big pharma isnt promoting every new drug under the sun. And we need to get rid of the drug ads off tv. All of that for starters but none of it is going to happen because this is a capitalistic society and capitalism rules all.
Republicans blocked Medicare from negotiating prices in the Affordable Care Act.

Despite promises to the contrary, Trump supports the Republican position against allowing Medicare to negotiate drug prices, despite overwhelming public support for allowing Medicare to negotiate drug prices.

<<Allowing the federal government to negotiate drug prices for Medicare beneficiaries is supported by 92 percent of the public, including a majority of Democrats (96%), Republicans (92%), and Independents (92%) (Figure 1). This proposal was also endorsed in a recent report from the National Academies of Sciences, Engineering, and Medicine.>>

https://www.kff.org/medicare/issue-b...-negotiations/

<<Over the course of the Presidential campaign, Republican campaign Donald Trump has repeatedly called for having Medicare directly negotiate drug prices, a task that is currently left up to private plans in Part D (the prescription drug portion of Medicare).>>

Could Negotiating Medicare Drug Prices Save $300 Billion Per Year? | Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget

Given the public support for allowing Medicare to negotiate drug prices, if Trump would fulfill his campaign promise and strongly demand allowing Medicare to negotiate drug prices, such a policy reform would become a quick reality.
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Old 05-23-2018, 08:19 AM
 
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The debate in the '60s over Medicare was just like today.

Why should the ants have to pay for medical care for the grasshoppers who couldn't get it organized to get pensions with health insurance until they died, the ones who didn't save enough to cover the costs of their own health care in their reclining years.

People were dying because they couldn't afford insulin, heart medications, let alone surgeries... and still there were those who insisted this was only fair.
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Old 05-23-2018, 08:20 AM
 
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there is no such thing as TrumpCare, keep making things up
It's fair to call Trump/Republican health care policies "Trumpcare," especially as Trump and Republicans have taken great pride in consciously gutting "Obamacare" (the Affordable Care Act). There was no Obamacare either.
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Old 05-23-2018, 08:21 AM
 
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Dear everyone posting in this thread. Please remember that not one single law passed in the US since 1970 has been about you and I getting better access to healthcare and everything GOVERNMENT has done, has caused the cost of Healthcare to rise faster than the cost of living...




think about that for a minute.
(PS there is nothing partisan about this post. In fact we have 100% bipartisan agreement on screwing the American public)
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Old 05-23-2018, 08:21 AM
 
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It's simple, deal with a con-man, expect to get conned.
talking about Obama? How he conned all of us with his crappy, socialized garbage of medical care called Obama care?

You can keep you plan ! Your rates will go down! BS LIES . ****** Obama lied .. My plan has changed 4 times
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Old 05-23-2018, 08:22 AM
 
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Republicans blocked Medicare from negotiating prices in the Affordable Care Act.

Despite promises to the contrary, Trump supports the Republican position against allowing Medicare to negotiate drug prices, despite overwhelming public support for allowing Medicare to negotiate drug prices.

<<Allowing the federal government to negotiate drug prices for Medicare beneficiaries is supported by 92 percent of the public, including a majority of Democrats (96%), Republicans (92%), and Independents (92%) (Figure 1). This proposal was also endorsed in a recent report from the National Academies of Sciences, Engineering, and Medicine.>>
What you quote here is the result of inequality in action. In a functional democracy, the public will would be the law of the land. In an oligarchy with enormous inequality, thats not the case. What the public want is of secondary concern to what the corrupt vested interests want. People who try to convince themselves that massive inequality is great and doesnt affect them should think twice.
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Old 05-23-2018, 08:24 AM
 
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Dear everyone posting in this thread. Please remember that not one single law passed in the US since 1970 has been about you and I getting better access to healthcare and everything GOVERNMENT has done, has caused the cost of Healthcare to rise faster than the cost of living...




think about that for a minute.
(PS there is nothing partisan about this post. In fact we have 100% bipartisan agreement on screwing the American public)
Government and the legal system is owned by corrupt, vested interests. A natural consequence of skyrocketing inequality. More inequality means less democracy and less power for ordinary Americans. Its no coincidence that trust in public institutions was at its peak in the 1960s when inequality was at its lowest and labor unions were at their strongest.
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Old 05-23-2018, 08:25 AM
 
Location: Central Mexico and Central Florida
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So we (you) would like higher paid individuals to foot the bill for this?
They are UNDERpaying now....time to level the playing field.

If I make 100K, I pay w/h on ALL my wages. But Mr. Fat Cat who makes a million bucks, only pays w/h on about 10% of his wages. What's fair about that??
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