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Maybe you should be calling moslems nazis if you really understand their "religion".
If it's common sense then you have immediate access to the numbers of crimes and terror attacks committed in Western Nations where the perpetrator was wearing a burqa. So how many? Quick, run, the clocks ticking.
It would also be common sense would it not, to prohibit the police (who are in theory public servants) from using full face covering except when in hazardous atmospheres from say gas or smoke would it not? I mean how do I know which cop pistol whipped me for being a smart ass if I can't see their face?
Why protect Muslims who are so traditional that their woman have to cover up in public? And perhaps Denmark hasn't forgotten what happened back in 2005 over a cartoon of their prophet.
In First World countries, different religions are only able to coexist peacefully as long as the followers are not excessively devout to their spiritual ways and considering others outside their faith to be heathens and blasphemers.
Keep that in mind the next time some right-wing Christian extremists demand laws punishing gays, women, people of other faiths and so on while mouthing off about how they are all "sinners going to hell."
Funny how separate of church and state seems to only apply to OTHER religions when dealing with the right.
So you're willing to repeat more mass murders to rhe point of annihilating millions of fellow human beings...
Weird!
You do know that Muslims are currently committing most of the mass murdrers at the present time. All in the name of Allah. Why do you think Muslims in Syria were fleeing? Other Muslims were killing them and dumping them in mass graves. When the Muslims run out of other Muslims to kill they'll come after you next.
You do know that Muslims are currently committing most of the mass murdrers at the present time. All in the name of Allah. Why do you think Muslims in Syria were fleeing? Other Muslims were killing them and dumping them in mass graves. When the Muslims run out of other Muslims to kill they'll come after you next.
No different than the Christian wars that raged across Europe for centuries, and then most of the planet. Or, are we going to pretend that World Wars 1 and 2 were waged between Muslims? How many tens of millions were killed? Go look it up.
Yes, Islam is currently a violent mess right now in many places, but acting like that is unique to their religion or culture is grossly inaccurate and ignores thousands of years of blood-soaked history that doesn't remotely involve Islam.
As for the burqa ban, I support it NOT because I "don't like Muslims" or because I like increasing state power, but there is a glaringly obvious public safety problem with allowing people to wandering around in public wearing garb that makes them impossible to ID "because religion." If you want to be a modest Muslim woman, don't wear revealing cloths and wear a headscarf - that's all perfectly appropriate and reasonable, and honestly about the same as more traditional Christian sects where people still dress modestly and wear head-coverings.
"from using full face covering except when in hazardous atmospheres from say gas or smoke would it not?"
you pretty much answered your stupid assumption.
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Originally Posted by Gungnir
If it's common sense then you have immediate access to the numbers of crimes and terror attacks committed in Western Nations where the perpetrator was wearing a burqa. So how many? Quick, run, the clocks ticking.
It would also be common sense would it not, to prohibit the police (who are in theory public servants) from using full face covering except when in hazardous atmospheres from say gas or smoke would it not? I mean how do I know which cop pistol whipped me for being a smart ass if I can't see their face?
I think most of us would agree that it would not be appropriate for the government to ban the burka here in America. Should we allow private entities to disallow the wearing of a burka on their premises though? We allow upscale restaurants to enforce dress codes after all. Should we allow restaurants that forbid the wearing of jeans to also forbid the wearing of a burka? Should we allow a bakery to refuse to sell a cake to a woman wearing a burka? What if it's two lesbians wearing burkas looking to buy a cake together?
I think most of us would agree that it would not be appropriate for the government to ban the burka here in America. Should we allow private entities to disallow the wearing of a burka on their premises though? We allow upscale restaurants to enforce dress codes after all. Should we allow restaurants that forbid the wearing of jeans to also forbid the wearing of a burka? Should we allow a bakery to refuse to sell a cake to a woman wearing a burka? What if it's two lesbians wearing burkas looking to buy a cake together?
"from using full face covering except when in hazardous atmospheres from say gas or smoke would it not?"
you pretty much answered your stupid assumption.
Erm, I guess you had your sarcasm meter surgically removed.
No matter.
I'll rephrase for the humorless.
If it's common sense to prohibit women wearing face coverings, it would follow (as in be the same logical progression) that the police not wear face covering except in hazardous atmospheres. I have a negligible risk of home invasion by a group of burqa wearing Islamic women (which sounds like the plotline for a porno, sorry there's that humor thing again). But I have some risk of home invasion by balaclava wearing police officers executing a no knock warrant, pistol whipping me for being a smart ass (at the cost if my tax dollars).
So how about you present the figures I asked for, of burqa wearing criminals and western terrorists. You got 'em right, you must to consider banning an item of clothing "common sense".
Erm, I guess you had your sarcasm meter surgically removed.
No matter.
I'll rephrase for the humorless.
If it's common sense to prohibit women wearing face coverings, it would follow (as in be the same logical progression) that the police not wear face covering except in hazardous atmospheres. I have a negligible risk of home invasion by a group of burqa wearing Islamic women (which sounds like the plotline for a porno, sorry there's that humor thing again). But I have some risk of home invasion by balaclava wearing police officers executing a no knock warrant, pistol whipping me for being a smart ass (at the cost if my tax dollars).
So how about you present the figures I asked for, of burqa wearing criminals and western terrorists. You got 'em right, you must to consider banning an item of clothing "common sense".
A very bad porno though. You don't want to see what those "ladies" are hiding under those burkas.
So what crimes would have been prevented, or perpetrators captured, if a burqa ban had been effected earlier?
Because I thought the whole issue was young Muslim men doing stuff in western nations, not Muslim women. And you don't see many muslim dudes running around in burqas.
I actually linked an incident of a bombing done by a Muslim man wearing a burka to hide the bomb in my post. I also linked a Muslim woman in a burka doing the same.
I don't for a minute think that if KKK members started bombing buildings dressed in their white garments we wouldn't ban those. I think that would be an end to their freedom of clothing choice.
After what happened in Charlotte we banned articles pertaining to its representation:
The school system announced it will ban students from wearing Confederate flags, swastikas and other designs and symbols associated with the KKK in the system's amended dress code. The decision was made Monday night by the school system's Board of Education — and it comes after vigils were held across Orange County to stand with the community of Charlottesville, Virginia, in the wake of violent uprises from far-right organizations.Orange County Schools ban KKK, Confederate apparel - The Daily Tar Heel
We also take down statues that offend people because of their representation. We cancel TV shows based on what we feel is offensive. Some countries feel the burka is offensive and promotes fear and is a method to induce terror.
The burka no longer just represents religion in certain countries, it has been involved in the killing of a lot of people. It has also been seen as a symbol of oppression against women who are forced to wear it in some countries and harmed if they do not.
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