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Old 06-18-2018, 04:29 PM
 
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For most of history, the concept of childhood did not exist and much of what we now consider pedophilia was normal behavior. Girls were deemed ready at the onset of puberty and it was typically an older man who could afford a wife. Very young girls were promised to men to settle family debts at young ages.

Delaware once considered age 7 as an appropriate age of consent for girls. Mature men made this ruling.

Nearly half the states have no legal Minimum Age for marriage so long as there is parental approval.

I am not advocating for pedophilia. Rather I am giving it context in terms of history.
Yes, a girl of 13 was an old maid.
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Old 06-18-2018, 04:31 PM
 
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For most of history, the concept of childhood did not exist and much of what we now consider pedophilia was normal behavior. Girls were deemed ready at the onset of puberty and it was typically an older man who could afford a wife. Very young girls were promised to men to settle family debts at young ages.
This is all rationalizing pedophilia even though that may not be your intention.

The notion that attraction to prepubescent children is just an alternate sexual orientation like gay and strait and that age is a social construct arbitrarily defined by society are both rhetorical tactics that people use in an effort to normalize pedophilia.

That's a slippery slope that we shouldn't ever go down. Period.
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Old 06-18-2018, 04:33 PM
 
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You are equating pedophilia and sexual offenders with homosexuality. There is so much ignorance in your post! But I'm not surprised.
No, that is what THEY are doing when they call pedophilia a "sexual orientation".
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Old 06-18-2018, 04:36 PM
 
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This is all rationalizing pedophilia even though that may not be your intention.

The notion that attraction to prepubescent children is just an alternate sexual orientation like gay and strait and that age is a social construct arbitrarily defined by society are both rhetorical tactics that people use in an effort to normalize pedophilia.

That's a slippery slope that we shouldn't ever go down. Period.
I read the comment another way. There are people claiming that we are on the way to allowing adults to sexually exploit children, and it appears to me that the poster has shown that it is actually quite the opposite.
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Old 06-18-2018, 04:42 PM
 
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"Why our perception of pedophilia has to change"


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjKts_KFDB4

This is actually happening. TED talks is giving this legitimacy. The crowd even applauded her. Slowly but surely people are trying to normalize pedophilia as a sexual orientation on the same level as homosexuality.

The progressive left is going to make it so that we have to accept and be tolerant of everybody's perversions. Europe is leading the way towards the normalization of degeneracy.
Ah, but those who forewarn of the unintended consequences of decisions today, are referred to as "the familiar parade of horribles". These people want what they want now, the consequences be damned, fit into two categories.

The first group cannot envision a day where what they are looking to accomplish, will some day lead to things they themselves would never want to happen.
For the most part, they are just myopic and selfish, not really caring about the future if they get what they want today.
The other group is more attuned and decide to be deceitful. They would love to have what they are asking for and 10X more if they could get it.
But they instead are astute enough to know that you must deny any of the horrors their opponents warn my happen, all the while secretly hoping, if not knowing, that their critics are correct.

A good comparative analogy involves the people who push for gun control. Some are just naive and feel compelled to do "something, anything", to make themselves feel better.
However they cannot envision that the erosion of the 2nd Amendment could lead to the downfall of this country in the future, nor would they want that. They are typically ignorant of history, and again, can never envision something like that happening in our "enlightened" time.
Then there are the ones who if they could snap their fingers would rid the planet of guns, as they want the total disarmament of the civilian population. Guns should only be in the hands of a benevolent government (run of course by like minded people).
These types use to be honest and wear their radical gun grabbing ideas on their sleeves. However over the decades when many people woke up to their agenda, they decided to cloak their intentions with different names of their groups (i.e. Handgun Control Inc morphed into Brady Campaign and Center to Prevent Gun Violence).
Now they do not say what their end game is, and instead use chameleon like language such as "common sense gun control". They cringe when one of their own comes out and says the goals to abolish the 2nd Amendment. They instead play the long game, using incrementalism and desensitization to lull the populace into an ambivalent malaise.

Thus, like many liberal agendas would never pass a straight up or down vote in Congress (because they would know it to be political suicide), the perverts want the un-elected judiciary to decide in their favor.
The same is true of those who want their sexual "choices and perversions to be legal, and eventually mainstream.
They never would come out and say what NAMBLA did in the 1970's, about wanting to have sex with young boys.
But don't think for a minute those sickos aren't still around, hoping to get a dirty sandal in the door. Then
the hordes of perverts might some day trick the masses into lowering the age of consent to 17 or below. Whatever little step they get then, will only last as long as they are trying to lower it to whatever prepubescent age the perverts desire.

So as sad as it is, these predators exist and are constantly trying to make our culture a reflection of Sodom & Gomorrah.
We must be vigilant to keep the wolves at bay.




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Old 06-18-2018, 04:55 PM
 
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The video is about how to best stop Pedophiles from acting on their impulses. Complete fail by OP.
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Old 06-18-2018, 05:01 PM
 
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The video is about how to best stop Pedophiles from acting on their impulses. Complete fail by OP.
You don't understand gradualism. That's how it starts. That's how they're selling the idea.
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Old 06-18-2018, 05:22 PM
 
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I think it's just a kind of gradualism. This is laying the groundwork for the eventual normalization of pedophilia. They want people to have sympathy for pedophiles, and recognize that perversion as a normal sexual orientation.

Later on, that would lead to the normalization of child-adult love.
I think you're right; the timing is highly convenient. Several years ago some predicted that there would be a move toward softening how people view pedophiles and pedophilia. People scoffed at it then too but, look...we now have TED talks about it.

Just like some schools started introducing kids as young as 6 to transgenderism as part of the "curriculum". Often w/o parents knowledge. Completely NUTS. Confusing the heck out of little kids who have NO NEED to know about such things at that age. Estimates are that ONLY .03% of the population is transgender. Hello, so does that sound like an agenda to you?

Probably most reading here also don't realize that there is an enormous child trafficking/pedophila network in the USA. I think in the not-too-distant future the public will be learning more about that and WHO is involved in it. Hopefully, before weak minds turn into apologists for pedophilia!!
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Old 06-18-2018, 05:44 PM
 
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At Points in video

1:17 to 1:25, because he is aware of the consequences for the children he has never given into his sexual drive.

3:57 to 4:12 The difference between pedophilia and child sexual abuse.

5:41 to 5:51 "Let me be very clear here. Abusing children is wrong without any doubt. But a pedophile who hasn't abused children hasn't done anything wrong."

Sounds to me like it's an explanation of pedophiles, not a justification of it. I see a lot of people confusing the two, even in matters well outside this issue.

What makes child-touching wrong is there is no "meeting of the minds", so to speak. That means a child doesn't understand the implications and emotional effects of sex as well as an adult, if the child can understand it at all. That still doesn't change the unpleasant fact that though pedophiles exist, they do nothing wrong if they don't act on their impulse.

As for "laying the groundwork for the normalization of pedophilia", I don't see that at all. The speaker clearly understands that NO amount of understanding of pedophilia will change the fact that a lack of "meeting of the minds" is exploitation or abuse.
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Old 06-18-2018, 06:09 PM
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No, that is what THEY are doing when they call pedophilia a "sexual orientation".
You don't understand the context of the conversation and are making assumptions . Sexual orientation in the context of this conversation indicates that Pedophilia = a sexual attraction to pre-pubescent children my understanding is that orientations could also expand to include romantic attraction and intellectual/emotional characteristics(pedos are often immature). No-one but some really sick people wants children to be molested.
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