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View Poll Results: Do You Believe That Women Gaining The Right To Vote Brought Us Today's Welfare State?
Yes 23 20.91%
No 87 79.09%
Voters: 110. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 06-29-2018, 11:34 AM
 
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What a shame this isn't a public poll. I'd love to see who the incels who voted yes are here.
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Old 06-29-2018, 11:35 AM
 
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During the 1920s after the vote was extended and before the welfare state most women supported Republicans. During the Great Depression they supported the Democrats like men. The gender voting gap did not emerge until the late 80s. So I don't think women were critical in creating the welfare state.

However they now present a serious impediment to its repeal. From my own experience women are more supportive of social spending than men, both on the right and the left. Again from my experience women seem to resent taxation to fund social services less as they seem to be more communal.
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Old 06-29-2018, 11:35 AM
 
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Unfortunately this has not happened to me. I am happily married with young children. This is just a discussion. You guys are really taking it far lol . I read some articles and seen some vlogs, just interested in other peoples opinions of the question. My wife had no problem talking about it lol.

Of course I believe if a man is not doing his duty he should pay for the child. I am not looking at that I am looking at the fact that after women gained the right to vote, government parties in power passed certain legislations in order to take care of or gain the female vote. The women vote for them in return. It just so happens that certain laws they passed involved welfare.
Do you let your wife go to the polling place unattended?
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Old 06-29-2018, 11:36 AM
 
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This is an insulting thread to all women.
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Old 06-29-2018, 11:36 AM
 
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What a shame this isn't a public poll. I'd love to see who the six incels who voted yes are here.
They wouldn't have voted then, most likely.
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Old 06-29-2018, 11:38 AM
 
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Democrats 'buying' votes is what brought us the welfare state, that and only that alone !!!
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Old 06-29-2018, 11:39 AM
 
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Think Lyndon Johnson and War on Poverty.
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Old 06-29-2018, 11:43 AM
 
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Do you let your wife go to the polling place unattended?
lol. Are you serious? She sure does and I know she doesn't vote blue.
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Old 06-29-2018, 11:47 AM
 
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Democrats 'buying' votes is what brought us the welfare state, that and only that alone !!!
The Depression was caused by overcapacity and subsequent deflation. In many ways it was the result of the electrification of industry.

The welfare state grows when the surplus population grows. As long as population growth exceeds economic growth the welfare state will grow.

Of course people won't voluntarily starve to death because they think stealing is wrong. The welfare state is just a cost of doing business with a free population. (Free populations also have many positives hence why democracies are usually wealthier.) Of course you can mismanage population growth, usually for ideological reasons, and for that political parties can be blamed. But demand shocks in the labor market are very hard to predict and sometimes there are just too many people.
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Old 06-29-2018, 11:47 AM
 
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In a way I do and in a way, I don't. I am a woman, and I study women. I think we need both to make a society run well. I've seen it run without both and wasn't thrilled with the results.

The real question is how would we look without welfare? South Africa has a corrupt welfare system and we see what that looks like. I think helping those less fortunate is unavoidable in a society that craves first world living conditions. That's just my opinion.

Any examples of a country thriving without it?

We aren't near the top of the list of spending on welfare in the U.S. Why the concern?
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