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View Poll Results: Do You Believe That Women Gaining The Right To Vote Brought Us Today's Welfare State?
Yes 23 20.91%
No 87 79.09%
Voters: 110. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 06-29-2018, 12:47 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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By their very definition all States are welfare States.

When the State collects tribute at gunpoint that money does eventually get spent on something for someone else including you.

Whether you're paying to have your street paved or to have a baby in Yemen get its head blown off its for your "welfare".
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Old 06-29-2018, 01:01 PM
 
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Women have a choice to pick a man to be the father of their children.

If that man turns out to be a dirt bag, then the government/tax payer has to pick up the tab for the bad choice/decisions made? It is equally a bad decision for the women as it is for the man. Social changes have led to record homes without fathers. Children are not being raised in a 2 parent home. They are being raised by the government. Why do you think the majority of millennials support socialism and act the way they are???? They grew up on social services and the government raising them. Thats why.

Fyi ......I do believe in child support for dead beat dads
Oh, man, please.
There are plenty of single mothers who never had a dime of welfare or CS for that matter who have and are raising their children.
People need government assistance for economic reasons not bad choice in spouse. Divorced and widowed single mothers have needed assistance, intact families need assistance.


Social change has made it possible for single mothers to get a job and financially support their kids without government assistance. My children were not raised in a two parent home and we were never on welfare. I think you would be surprised at the number of women who have raised families alone and never received a dime of welfare because they worked.


In the past, even after 1920, single mothers had to either live in extreme poverty and depend on charity or give up their children or find a husband willing to support them. Its not as though there weren't fatherless children or women and children living in squalor. Children born out of wedlock were most often just stolen from their mothers.


This woman was married. Her husband abandoned her (pregnant) and his children shortly after this picture was taken.


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Old 06-29-2018, 01:08 PM
 
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I wonder if any Republican women are rethinking their party now that their men question their right to vote.
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Old 06-29-2018, 01:09 PM
 
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This woman was married. Her husband abandoned her (pregnant) and his children shortly after this picture was taken.

Wouldn't you abandon your wife if she put your kids up for sale?
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Old 06-29-2018, 01:11 PM
 
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I posted more articles after that one. That article concludes that women go out and vote more when their welfare is cut or reformed.

Honey, the first link is an abstract from a Canadian study in 1984. The second is the same one I commented on and the third is a book for sale about children's welfare in Argentina starting in 1823. Nothing discussing voting rights and welfare benefits.
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Old 06-29-2018, 01:12 PM
 
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Wouldn't you abandon your wife if she put your kids up for sale?
I would not allow my husband to put our kids up for sale.
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Old 06-29-2018, 01:16 PM
 
Location: Philaburbia
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So women feel closer to the liberal issues in this country. They are mothers & think with their heart more than their brain.
I think with my brain just fine, thankyouverymuch.



My brain tells me that, in the most prosperous nation on the planet, children should not be going hungry, shouldn't be cold in the winter, shouldn't settle for substandard education. My brain tells me that all of us in society must care for the next generation until they're old enough to stand on their own. My brain tells me that it costs much less to educate a child than to incarcerate an adult 15 years later.

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I don't know if this is true
Then why say it?

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They brought us the IRS and the FBI, that's for sure.
Come again? Who's "they", and how did "they" swing that?

If you're talking about women as "they", then you need a seriously history lesson.

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Thank You! They vote for socialism more which leads to welfare.
Either you don't know what socialism is, or you misunderstood the post you were responding to, because that poster said no such thing.

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Women have a choice to pick a man to be the father of their children.

If that man turns out to be a dirt bag, then the government/tax payer has to pick up the tab for the bad choice/decisions made?
People change. The decision may not have been a bad one when it was made.

But nice try, blaming women for something they have no control over. What was that you were saying about not being sexist? LMAO ...
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Old 06-29-2018, 01:16 PM
 
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No. Very misogynist viewpoint and stereotypical views of gender-related traits.
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Old 06-29-2018, 01:18 PM
 
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I wonder if any Republican women are rethinking their party now that their men question their right to vote.

You men now that the OP questions women's right to vote. no.
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Old 06-29-2018, 01:20 PM
 
Location: 20 years from now
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I don't know if this is true but I heard that years ago black pastors in churches would tell black women that you don't need a man around because if you don't have a man around you can collect money from the government. So don't get married because then you will have more difficulty getting government assistance.

Black families were probably some of the strongest families around because you had to stick together in tough/racist times. But then suddenly the family ties fell apart.

I never head of this being preached in Black Church's, but it is somewhat common knowledge that once Poverty Programs took off during the LBJ's "Great Society" many welfare service providers mandated that women with children could not receive aid if there was an adult male living in the home.

it became a general belief that you no longer had to be married or cohabitating in order for women to have children, and that in many cases having MORE children brought you more benefits. Many [black] women at that point began procreating with the lowest common denominator in the community because "quality" (in the traditional sense) was no longer a necessity. The poorest amongst us are still til thisday, stuck within the form of practice.

Prior to that, black families were probably far more religious, independent and therefor more traditionally nuclear with an integrated protestant work ethic because of these circumstances. Funny enough, the were far more conservative and Republican supporting in those days as well.
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