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Originally Posted by Loveshiscountry
But Obama did such a good job with the recovery right? Food stamp usage is still 50 percent higher than before the crash while population grew 8 percent.
When you hand people money for not working full time, the incentive to work full time decreases.
Employers have been shifting to part-time since the Reagan administration.
Uh no, their willingness to run an immoral food stamp scheme is responsible for people getting food stamps.
Which "their" are you referring to?
SNAP recipients?
The underpaid social workers that help sign people up for SNAP?
The legislators that make law, or the bureaucrats that make and execute policy within those laws?
Which one is "their" and how are "they" responsible? How are "they" immoral?
Try to be a little more clear when assigning blame so we can all follow along.
The majority of SNAP beneficiaries are minors, disabled and elderly. The House Bill does not impact the majority of beneficiaries.
Able- bodied adults have been limited to 3 months every three years unless working or training for work at least 20 hours a week for more than 20 years.
States have the ability to waive these requirements based on economic conditions in parts of or the entire state. During the years leading up to and beyond the Great Recession, most states waived the work/ train requirement. Many states claimed they did not have the funding for training.
Best I can tell the admin wants to increase the age of able- bodied to 62 and give states more $ for training.
Location: The place where the road & the sky collide
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Originally Posted by middle-aged mom
The majority of SNAP beneficiaries are minors, disabled and elderly. The House Bill does not impact the majority of beneficiaries.
Able- bodied adults have been limited to 3 months every three years unless working or training for work at least 20 hours a week for more than 20 years.
States have the ability to waive these requirements based on economic conditions in parts of or the entire state. During the years leading up to and beyond the Great Recession, most states waived the work/ train requirement. Many states claimed they did not have the funding for training.
Best I can tell the admin wants to increase the age of able- bodied to 62 and give states more $ for training.
Soybean farmers in the three I states, Iowa, Illinois and Indiana say the Trump tariffs will have serious negative economic impacts. Trump mumbled something about making it up to them.
Snap recipients?
The underpaid social workers that help sign people up for snap?
The legislators that make law, or the bureaucrats that make and execute policy within those laws?
Which one is "their" and how are "they" responsible? How are "they" immoral?
Try to be a little more clear when assigning blame so we can all follow along.
the fedguv, congress
Your neighbor isn't responsible for paying your bills.
No one persons "need" justifies theft
Soybean farmers in the three I states, Iowa, Illinois and Indiana say the Trump tariffs will have serious negative economic impacts. Trump mumbled something about making it up to them.
Tariffs are just as wrong as subsidies and both parties apply them were it will get them the most votes.
SNAP recipients?
The underpaid social workers that help sign people up for SNAP?
The legislators that make law, or the bureaucrats that make and execute policy within those laws?
Which one is "their" and how are "they" responsible? How are "they" immoral?
Try to be a little more clear when assigning blame so we can all follow along.
They (those members) are likely just upset their government privatization schemes are being outed:
They're likely even more upset that for-profit private businesses (their heroes) are backing out of these programs:
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...With so much money flowing through these card programs, why is JP Morgan Chase getting out of the business? When the firm won new EBT contracts in 2008 and 2009, it proudly proclaimed itself "the national leader in bringing electronic benefit and banking solutions for low-income households." In 2012, the company's managing director of treasury services told Bloomberg News that the SNAP EBT card business was not only important "in terms of its size and scale" but also "in the sense that we are delivering a very useful social function here. We are a key part of this benefit delivery mechanism."
But recent media coverage hasn't presented the contracts as social work by firms like Chase. In fact, it's just the opposite. After the recession, a wave of stories revealed that large financial corporations profited when unemployment and poverty grew. That's led to pushback from state lawmakers. Washington state, for example, passed a law in 2011 requiring JP Morgan Chase to warn welfare recipients that withdrawing cash benefits from an ATM would result in a 85-cent transaction fee. The following year, the state's Department of Social and Health Services negotiated with Chase to eliminate the fee altogether. ...
Those members are of the same belief system that resulted in Goldman Sach's Lloyd Blankfein's claim that he's doing "God's Work". sheesh, as long as you're a business ('businesses are people'), you're not being regulated by government, & you're all for-profit & all for yourself, you're alright.
So ridiculous.
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Food stamp usage is still 50 percent higher than before the crash while population grew 8 percent.
sheesh, as long as you're a business ('businesses are people'), you're not being regulated by government, & you're all for-profit & all for yourself, you're alright. 
