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Old 07-04-2018, 10:11 PM
 
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Originally Posted by natalie469 View Post
Since the Trump administration is under investigation, he shouldn't be allowed to nominate anyone until the investigation is over. But the supreme court needs to be balanced so it represents all of us
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Originally Posted by rupp-certified View Post
The Supreme Court of the United States does not "represent" us. Their role is to interpret the text of the Constitution and strike down laws that are unconstitutional. Of course if you do this properly, you get labelled "conservative." By this standard we should 9 "conservative" justices, though 5, 6, or 7 would be a good start!
I really worry about the future of this country when I read comments like that of Natalie469. It's as if she never learned what the governing laws of our constitutional republic are, and she is only going by what her feelings or ideological beliefs are.

Apparently, and unbeknownst to her, our scotus was fairly non political and didn't start legislating from the bench until the Warren court of the (you guessed it) the 1960's.
This was of course the decade many point to where our country started going down hill, and liberal activist judges started to usurp the role of Congress, by trying to create legislation rather than interpreting it.

She also apparently does not realize the scotus is suppose to come to their conclusions based on interpretation of the Constitutions original meaning, thus it would represent us all, even if all 9 justices were nominated by one potus.

But you can tell she is just parroting leftist talking points with the comment "Trump is under investigation, and he shouldn't be allowed to nominate anyone until the investigation is over".
Sure, wouldn't that be a dream come true of the leftists to try and stop the agenda of an elected (R) potus.

She apparently doesn't know or care that this "investigation" was started by the Democrats based on a false narrative. We a know there is not going to be a Russian collusion finding, and Mueller is just fishing around hoping to find something like a Stormy payoff to try and pin on Trump.
Such an investigation is just a way to stop a potus, by creating a poison pill to thwart a president from accomplishing anything while a contrived plot to undermine him slogged on for years.
Heck with that mentality, he shouldn't be allowed to negotiate treaties, defend our country against invasion, take military action, etc.
He should just sit in the WH and wait for the special council to investigate the false narrative until the next presidential election, right?

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Old 07-04-2018, 10:13 PM
 
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Originally Posted by natalie469 View Post
Since the Trump administration is under investigation, he shouldn't be allowed to nominate anyone until the investigation is over. But the supreme court needs to be balanced so it represents all of us

No.


First of all in America you are innocent until proven guilty. Trump has not been proven guilty on anything so he should be free to do as he wants. And once again no. The supreme court does not need to be balanced. Can you tell me where it says that? That simply is not how it works. You change things by voting. Not by making up rules that do not exist.
 
Old 07-04-2018, 10:21 PM
 
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Originally Posted by natalie469 View Post
Since the Trump administration is under investigation, he shouldn't be allowed to nominate anyone until the investigation is over. But the supreme court needs to be balanced so it represents all of us
Multiple incorrect statements, here. The worst being that the SC "represents us".

The SC is meant to be a constitutional court.
 
Old 07-04-2018, 10:23 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Oklazona Bound View Post
Will the left ever admit they nominated the wrong candidate for POTUS? Clearly nominating Hillary gave Trump the best chance of winning. Yet they blame everything and everyone but themselves. I think this is why they will never get closure regarding the 2016 election. It will always haunt them.
Both parties are to blame for nominating the wrong candidates. Hillary had way too much baggage but she did have foreign experience and knew how government works. But she was not well liked. And the only other choice was Bernie. Republicans had a much better field to choose from. Yet you chose a narcissistic reality star with no experience who alienates our allies and praises the dictators. Not very American
 
Old 07-04-2018, 10:30 PM
 
Location: North Seattle
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Indeed it's absurd to suggest Trump can't perform his presidential duties until Bobby Mueller's never-ending investigation is over. Fortunately it doesn't matter because Democrats don't have the votes to stop the Senate from confirming a new justice via the nuclear option - and they can thank Harry Reid for that!
 
Old 07-04-2018, 10:34 PM
 
Location: Honolulu/DMV Area/NYC
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Wait! Is there talk of Thomas leaving? I hope not! He is easily my favorite Justice, only behind Scalia..
Thomas' wife has dismissed such retirement talk as nonsense: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/w...-talk-as-bogus

He's actually talked about the circumstances in which he'd call it a day and hang up his robes when he was promoting his book, My Grandfather's Son some years ago. I don't recall the exact verbiage, but he said something along the lines of being ready to retire when he feels comfortable/that he belongs on the Court. I'm trying to find that interview clip.
 
Old 07-04-2018, 11:02 PM
 
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Originally Posted by natalie469 View Post
Since the Trump administration is under investigation, he shouldn't be allowed to nominate anyone until the investigation is over. But the supreme court needs to be balanced so it represents all of us

you need a lesson in civics, perhaps a college level course would help you.


1: the supreme court does not "represent the people". they are there as noted to apply the constitution to the law, when those laws come to the court.


2: the president has the constitutional duty to fill openings on the court. whether the senate decides to vet the nominee is up to them.


3: just because someone is under investigation does not mean they are guilty of anything. its only AFTER they have been convicted of a crime that they are considered guilty. just because you hate someone doesnt make them guilty either. perhaps one day you will figure that out, and perhaps one day you will lift the veil of hate from your eyes and see things more clearly.


4: the supreme court does not need to be "balanced". in fact the supreme court needs to be filled with constitutionalists, judges that will apply the constitution to the laws brought before them, and not try to legislate from the bench. we have three branches of government and each branch has their own responsibilities and powers, and they provide a check and balance against the other two branches.
 
Old 07-04-2018, 11:23 PM
 
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Ruth, God bless her heart, will die in the saddle, with her boots on. That will be #3. 4 is def a likely outcome for President Trump. 5 is not impossible. Isn’t America great!!!
 
Old 07-05-2018, 03:25 AM
 
Location: Here and now.
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I asked earlier...and nothing...don't expect anything either....
Actually, the link DavePa shared raises some interesting questions. Whether you agree with its premise or not, it is food for thought. The post to which I was replying contained no supporting information at all, just accusations.
 
Old 07-05-2018, 03:41 AM
 
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60’sagain, everyone is still waiting for proof of your claim. At this point, it’s appearing to be a giant tin foil hat, loony tunes conspiracy.
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