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But how does the charge relate to Russian collusion?
It has no impact on Trump.
Manafort was Trump's campaign manager. If Trump colluded and conspired with the Russians to interfere in the election, Manafort either participated in the collusion or was a witness to it. Any member of Trump's inner circle who is accused of collusion or conspiracy implicates Trump because he either directed it, ordered it, condoned it or knew of it. He cannot claim ignorance, it was his campaign.
That's another thing. If they can't find anything on Russian collusion, why is Mueller still investigating it rather than other law enforcement? It seems that Mueller is a more generic prosecutor than a special prosecutor. Thus, he was unconstitutionally appointed. Thus, he MUST step down!
Actually, at this point, Trump should fire J Edgar Mueller as well as pardon Manafort.
Manafort was Trump's campaign manager. If Trump colluded and conspired with the Russians to interfere in the election, Manafort either participated in the collusion or was a witness to it. Any member of Trump's inner circle who is accused of collusion or conspiracy implicates Trump because he either directed it, ordered it, condoned it or knew of it. He cannot claim ignorance, it was his campaign.
Excellent synopsis. It's beyond me why that is so difficult to understand, but for some folks your post might as well have been written in an obscure ancient subdialect of Klingon.
Save your answer. I'm sure you will see the same question repeatedly.
That's another thing. If they can't find anything on Russian collusion, why is Mueller still investigating it rather than other law enforcement? It seems that Mueller is a more generic prosecutor than a special prosecutor. Thus, he was unconstitutionally appointed. Thus, he MUST step down!
Actually, at this point, Trump should fire J Edgar Mueller as well as pardon Manafort.
Mueller has indicted over a dozen people all about Russian interference-which is his mandate. NOT collusion. Additionally his mandate was clear that it was anything that arises from the investigation as well.
Why do people keep going to the collusion thing-when thats not Muellers job-but merely a side aspect of it? And why do they ignore the fact that he is supposed to investigate any crimes he comes across as well?
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Manafort being charged has no impact on Trump anyway.
What does Trump get from pardoning Manafort?
Actually pardoning Manafort would probably hurt Trump politically.
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How do you know he has not found anything?
mueller is pretty much the only one at this point that can do anything to stop Trump...and mueller is silent. Trump is dismantling obama's legacy EO by EO, he's making real progress for this country--NK, black unemployment down, etc., his approval is going up and up, Etc....and mueller remains silent. The only thing mueller seems to be doing is straying into far left field--hitting at manafort time after time after time, like he has nothing else to do, going after the Russian ad people, that was a huge miscalculation on muellers part, etc.,...not a single thing against Trump. After all of the time spent on the investigation ...mueller's got nothing. mueller may even have less by next week, too, after Judge Sullivan gets done with him. mueller knows this...and still he has brought out nothing on Trump. IF he had anything he would have brought it out by now.
As far as manafort, if there was actually something there then he would/should have been charged back around 2005. Since he'd already been investigated years ago and they didn't think it was enough to charge him with then maybe there really isn't anything to go after him for. (now, don't go spinning what I said. I am saying that if it were that bad then he should have been charged years ago. By suddenly wanting to charge him for something that they refused to charge him for years ago seems to make it appear that it is nothing but political, and that is wrong.)
Nothing happened back then and not a single one of the haters seems to have cared enough to scream at obama to go after him. Suddenly people care? What changed? Oh yeah, it's all because of the hate for Trump.
Soon, the hunter may become the hunted -- 9/11, HSBC, U1, etc.
You people cheering on having people pardoned when the evidence of their guilt is piling up are a disgrace to this country. Especially those of you claiming to be conservatives, the party of law and order.
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That's another thing. If they can't find anything on Russian collusion, why is Mueller still investigating it rather than other law enforcement? It seems that Mueller is a more generic prosecutor than a special prosecutor. Thus, he was unconstitutionally appointed. Thus, he MUST step down!
Actually, at this point, Trump should fire J Edgar Mueller as well as pardon Manafort.
You don't know what Mueller has found. The investigation is ongoing which means they're not going to share everything with the public. You'd be a terrible investigator if you did.
It's clear that they are putting him in solitary and charging him with bogus charges to try and get him to give a coerced confession so that they can then use it against President Trump. Since these are federal crimes they are accusing Manafort of, President Trump can pardon him to end Mueller's witch hunt against Manafort.
He has not been convicted of anything, to be pardoned from.
He has been found guilty, before his day in court and due process to prove his innocents.
Manafort is in solitary for his own protection against the general prison population. I'm sure he's not complaining about that.
Nah, he’s in solitary in hopes that he’ll crack and plead for a deal with Mueller (maybe to say something that never even happened). Many people, especially liberals say that solitary is torture, so in effect they are torturing Manafort in hopes that he’ll help their cause.
Nah, he’s in solitary in hopes that he’ll crack and plead for a deal with Mueller (maybe to say something that never even happened). Many people, especially liberals say that solitary is torture, so in effect they are torturing Manafort in hopes that he’ll help their cause.
Manafort put himself in his position through his own actions. The job of the prison is to protect him until trial. If the only way they can assure he won;t be harmed or killed is to segregate him from other inmates, he'll just have to live with the hole he dug and learn to enjoy wallowing in it. After the trial he may be in it for another twenty or thrity years.
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