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Old 07-14-2018, 09:28 PM
 
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First, it was important to see the substance of what the North Atlantic Treaty Organization has accomplished as of the summit this week, since the historic NATO summit in Warsaw just two years ago. The achievements include the adaptation of the NATO command structure, which will significantly improve the reinforcement and responsiveness capabilities of the alliance.


Members have also renewed commitment to increased defense expenditures and investment and made progress on improving military mobility, as well as beginning the process toward Macedonia's eventual membership.


NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg has done a superb job of shepherding the members, keeping all on track and building momentum toward real substance. We are lucky to have him.


But second, I was disappointed to see President Trump bring a wrecking ball to Brussels. He publicly HUMILATED our most important allies and then, the following day, said everything was GREAT, that he had a great relationship with the chancellor of Germany and that he was personally responsible for the money that was "pouring into NATO."


Whatever happened to positive, unifying leadership by the president of the United States?


https://www.npr.org/2018/07/13/62878...proach-to-nato
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Old 07-14-2018, 09:34 PM
 
Location: St Paul
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It sounds like you're more concerned with being diplomatic than getting our country on track. America was sick of smooth talking politicians who sold us down the river to foreign alliances, globalist interests and multinational corporations, which is why we elected Trump. We're going to try it his way now, so far it's working well.
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Old 07-14-2018, 09:39 PM
 
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It sounds like you're more concerned with being diplomatic than getting our country on track. America was sick of smooth talking politicians who sold us down the river to foreign alliances, globalist interests and multinational corporations, which is why we elected Trump. We're going to try it his way now, so far it's working well.


America has been doing that for years way before Trump got into office he's just continuing it just at a faster rate then anyone else has. No, it's not working. Insulting our allies don't do a damn thing.
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Old 07-14-2018, 09:45 PM
 
Location: CO/UT/AZ/NM Catch me if you can!
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It sounds like you're more concerned with being diplomatic than getting our country on track. America was sick of smooth talking politicians who sold us down the river to foreign alliances, globalist interests and multinational corporations, which is why we elected Trump. We're going to try it his way now, so far it's working well.
Vladimir Putin couldn't have given a better reply.
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Old 07-14-2018, 09:47 PM
 
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The NATO coalition is stronger than it's been in decades. Watch the press conference and you might actually learn something. They all want Trump to meet with Putin but maybe he should consult with certain forum members here who know more than they do.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ixazvcS0FU
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Old 07-14-2018, 09:49 PM
 
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I think first and foremost is that Trump doesn't understand how it works OR he chooses to purposely mislead Americans on how it works.

When you start with that -- whatever he says after lacks any credibility or integrity.

It is clear after two NATO summits, Trump's style of leadership isn't working.

He hasn't been able to get the allies to come to any major agreement like they did in 2014.

Doesn't matter if his fans think he is being strategic, purposely being nasty, etc......the end result is what counts...and it is failing.

The problem now -- we are becoming comfortably numb with his insults. Nobody even bothers to fight back...they just let him yanner away and they do nothing.

Oh well......maybe he will have better luck making friends with Putin....because we all want to be friends with Putin.
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Old 07-14-2018, 09:51 PM
 
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The NATO coalition is stronger than it's been in decades. Watch the press conference and you might actually learn something. They all want Trump to meet with Putin but maybe he should consult with certain forum members here who know more than they do.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ixazvcS0FU
Trump could tell you anything and you believe him.

Not one leader has spoken in support of Trump and his meeting with Putin....only Trump has told us that they said something. He also said they all agreed to give more money to NATO....lol......
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Old 07-14-2018, 09:51 PM
 
Location: southern california
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NATO is a weak entity with a poor track record
Europe needs to pay their fair share we are not an auto teller
They are counting on massive support with money equipment and personnel
We are allies not Santa Claus
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Old 07-14-2018, 09:52 PM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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Past presidents tried the subtle approach. Didn't work. Our "allies" snickered behind their hands and went about their business. "Let America continue to take care of us. They can afford it".
Chicken-hearted liberals are always yelping about who likes us and who doesn't. Not very important, I think. We shouldn't have to pay more than everyone to NATO else just so someone will "like us".
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Old 07-14-2018, 09:53 PM
 
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not my approach.
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