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Old 08-21-2018, 07:19 AM
 
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Trumps did not win because he was a good choice, he won because he was the less of two evils, and on the evil statement he won by a landslide. Is not what the public wanted but what they did not want in office. So you can hate him all you want, and he is an a hole but he's a lot better than what it could of been.
If you consider that having as POTUS someone who conspired with Russians to subvert the normal process of a US election is a "good" thing, you are just as much a syncophant of Putin as Trump and his cabal...

You threw out the baby with the bathwater in electing Trump and let yourself be persuaded that you were doing something righteous---so wrong...

Trump won because the Russians and Trump's campaign officials used stolen information from US citizen and the DNC to improve their chances of winning--
They cheated--
There was nothing honest about Trump's message, his campaign, or how they manipulated the election system.
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Old 08-21-2018, 07:52 AM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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If you consider that having as POTUS someone who conspired with Russians to subvert the normal process of a US election is a "good" thing, you are just as much a syncophant of Putin as Trump and his cabal...

You threw out the baby with the bathwater in electing Trump and let yourself be persuaded that you were doing something righteous---so wrong...

Trump won because the Russians and Trump's campaign officials used stolen information from US citizen and the DNC to improve their chances of winning--
They cheated--
There was nothing honest about Trump's message, his campaign, or how they manipulated the election system.
Prove it <bold>. You must be really,really smart and connected or, more likely you believe any B.S. that comes across the internet since NOBODY has been able to prove what you charge as of yet. TDS is in your head...
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Old 08-21-2018, 08:33 AM
 
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Prove it <bold>. You must be really,really smart and connected or, more likely you believe any B.S. that comes across the internet since NOBODY has been able to prove what you charge as of yet. TDS is in your head...
Actually someone more connected than I am is working on it right now...
Which is why Trump is likely wearing Depends under those sz 52 waistband suit pants

And eventhough I am more an atheist than an evangelical, I was raised Southern Baptist and went to a church-oriented college...a Lutheran one...

So I know a good bit about religious philosophy
You don't require proof--physical proof--if you have faith...
In fact it is almost anathema to REQUIRE physical proof to justify faith
Unlike so many supposed believers who require a literal interpretation of the Bible's counting of time and ignoring geological evidence in order to "prove" a belief system--faith rises above those limitations
True faith is strong enough to sustain righteous belief in the face of evidence that challenges a belief...
(Which is actually one reason Trump's supporters are inoculated against proof of his involvement in criminal,activity w/Ussians and others as well as collusion to hack the election.)

And, personally, I believe the chain of circumstantial evidence adds up to some strong supportive "proof" that Trump, at least some his campaign staff, and others in the GOP cabal like the NRA, Erik Prince,many others large and small of participation-- in addition to the FSB cadre like Fancy Bear -- were involved in a variety of methods and efforts to tilt/subvert/tweak/infiltrate --conspire and/or collude to enable Donald Teump and also OTHER GOP candidates down the ticket to win their races...

Trump's involvement with the corrupt elements in Russia has existed since the late 70s/early 80s when Trump's business was failing due to his own inept business practices and numerous bankruptcies...
You know it, I know it...
The proof is there which is one reason Trump refuses to present his complete tax filings

So keep claiming nothing happened...
I am patient...
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Old 08-21-2018, 09:00 AM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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Actually someone more connected than I am is working on it right now...
Which is why Trump is likely wearing Depends under those sz 52 waistband suit pants

And eventhough I am more an atheist than an evangelical, I was raised Southern Baptist and went to a church-oriented college...a Lutheran one...

So I know a good bit about religious philosophy
You don't require proof--physical proof--if you have faith...
In fact it is almost anathema to REQUIRE physical proof to justify faith
Unlike so many supposed believers who require a literal interpretation of the Bible's counting of time and ignoring geological evidence in order to "prove" a belief system--faith rises above those limitations
True faith is strong enough to sustain righteous belief in the face of evidence that challenges a belief...
(Which is actually one reason Trump's supporters are inoculated against proof of his involvement in criminal,activity w/Ussians and others as well as collusion to hack the election.)

And, personally, I believe the chain of circumstantial evidence adds up to some strong supportive "proof" that Trump, at least some his campaign staff, and others in the GOP cabal like the NRA, Erik Prince,many others large and small of participation-- in addition to the FSB cadre like Fancy Bear -- were involved in a variety of methods and efforts to tilt/subvert/tweak/infiltrate --conspire and/or collude to enable Donald Teump and also OTHER GOP candidates down the ticket to win their races...

Trump's involvement with the corrupt elements in Russia has existed since the late 70s/early 80s when Trump's business was failing due to his own inept business practices and numerous bankruptcies...
You know it, I know it...
The proof is there which is one reason Trump refuses to present his complete tax filings

So keep claiming nothing happened...
I am patient...
So after all the blather and bleating above as well as injecting your religion (for some unknown reason) you still don't have any PROOF, as in FACTS as in tangible evidence. Just supposition and guessing and a "belief" which is as good as a guess in this case.
Figured as much...

I'm clearly stating until is PROVED Trump had a hand in it, he didn't. Charges require PROOF under our system of justice...
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Old 08-21-2018, 09:02 AM
 
Location: alexandria, VA
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So after all the blather and bleating above as well as injecting your religion (for some unknown reason) you still don't have any PROOF, as in FACTS as in tangible evidence. Just supposition and guessing and a "belief" which is as good as a guess in this case.

Figured as much...
It's coming.
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Old 08-21-2018, 09:57 AM
 
Location: sumter
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So after all the blather and bleating above as well as injecting your religion (for some unknown reason) you still don't have any PROOF, as in FACTS as in tangible evidence. Just supposition and guessing and a "belief" which is as good as a guess in this case.
Figured as much...

I'm clearly stating until is PROVED Trump had a hand in it, he didn't. Charges require PROOF under our system of justice...
Trump supporters still wont believe any charges against their beloved one. City Data political forums will absolutely blow if charges found against this man. Trump have already conditioned them to believe otherwise, that they can't even believe the truth.
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Old 08-23-2018, 08:14 AM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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It's coming.
So's Christmas, we'll see which arrives first, if at all...

All I can say is provide proof, charge then put on trial and let the chips fall where they may. Until then shut up with the ridiculous accusations...
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Old 08-23-2018, 08:19 AM
 
Location: alexandria, VA
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So's Christmas, we'll see which arrives first, if at all...

All I can say is provide proof, charge then put on trial and let the chips fall where they may. Until then shut up with the ridiculous accusations...
Not an accusation. A prediction. Do you know the difference?
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Old 08-23-2018, 09:00 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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So after all the blather and bleating above as well as injecting your religion (for some unknown reason) you still don't have any PROOF, as in FACTS as in tangible evidence. Just supposition and guessing and a "belief" which is as good as a guess in this case.
Figured as much...

I'm clearly stating until is PROVED Trump had a hand in it, he didn't. Charges require PROOF under our system of justice...
........unless you are Hillary Clinton, right?
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Old 08-23-2018, 01:18 PM
 
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So's Christmas, we'll see which arrives first, if at all...

All I can say is provide proof, charge then put on trial and let the chips fall where they may. Until then shut up with the ridiculous accusations...
If you are so against rumination, speculation, connect-the-dots conjecture---why are you here?
Newspapers with factual info and more restrained opinions are on other platforms
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