Universal Health Care with a Tier System for Taxpayers

[Katarina Witt]

Originally Posted by Brave New World

I agree, however in terms of medicare for all you should really e looking at Australia which had medicare for all, and indeed Germany which has a micture of private and public rather than the UK which has a much more state driven healthcare scheme as well as a much smaller private healthcare system.

The British will accept this much more readily than Americans mainly due to our history, indeed we have much more of a society spirit due to having to survice against the odds as a small island race over the centuries, and having to endure bombing and rationing.

The British will even form an orderly queue and organide themselves as group, that is how good they are at working together. Indeed always stay on the correct side of the tube esculator and never hump at queue in Britain.



Britain has had measles outbreaks, and vaccines are encouraged but not compulsory.

The NHS recommends you get your child vaccinated and it is free, and there are vaccinations at family doctors Surgeries in schools, the only way you won't get vaccinated is if the parents forbid it, and this is not the problem of the heathcare system whether public or private, it is down to free choice.

I would say though that the NHS and indeed Ambulance crews are fantastic in the UK, and are very much a public service who aren't asfter money and are there vto serve very much like the police and fire service and they are respected in a similar way.

It's pretty much that way here, too.

Despite whatever you may have heard, vaccines are not compulsory here in the US, either. There is no vaccine that one must have simply to reside here. States have vaccine mandates for school attendance, which have been judged legal by the US Supreme Court. All but three states allow religious/philosophical exemptions, and even the three that don't (CA, MS, and W VA) allow for homeschooling w/o vaccines. No one is vaccinated at gunpoint here, or fined, or jailed for not vaccinating their kids.

Again, despite what you may have heard, vaccination for kids is free here too. If you have health insurance, vaccines have to be provided for free at the point of service. (Of course, the parent(s)/employer(s) have to pay for the insurance. This is new since the ACA (2010), but even before that some states required vaccines to be part of an insurance policy, and there were resources for uninsured/underinsured. The Vaccines for Children program pays for immunizations for kids who are uninsured, underinsured (a holdover from pre-ACA), Medicaid (health insurance for the low income), Native Americans and Alaskan Natives. https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/program...out/index.html
We have the same problem as the UK with parents who don't want their kids immunized; apparently to a lesser degree, though.

As far as ambulances, again despite what you've heard/read in both our and your hyperbolic media, only about 18% of ambulance service here in the US is private, presumably for-profit. There is sometimes a charge for the government services, though they are subsidized and insurance will usually pay for it. Some housing developments have "ambulance associations" where you subscribe to the service. Some are actually volunteer. I suggest reading the following if you're interested in more detail.
https://www.ems1.com/private-public-...he-difference/
and Ambulance Association | City of Hawarden, Iowa as an example of a volunteer ambulance association.