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View Poll Results: How many votes will Brett Kavanaugh get for confirmation in the Senate?
61 or more 63 13.55%
58-60 32 6.88%
55-57 61 13.12%
50-54 198 42.58%
49 or less 111 23.87%
Voters: 465. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 09-20-2018, 08:53 AM
 
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How many times must it be explained to you that a job interview is NOT a court of law? What about that do you fail to understand?

And I responded that no judge would accept that case (as a comparison), so why have any type of investigation? Sad I have to explain it like that...


This thread moves fast, keep up with it...try...

 
Old 09-20-2018, 08:54 AM
 
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If I were a successful man, I'd be worried that some chick I dated in high school or college would come out with outlandish accusations as revenge for some real or imagined slight, knowing she could get away with it.

Attempted rape, is hardly a “slight.” And if someone molested you as a young person, you would surely remember every detail of the physical experience. Believe me, you DO.

And what woman would make something like that up in this era of shaming women for accusing powerful men?
 
Old 09-20-2018, 08:55 AM
 
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There is no evidence she is willing to give testimony to the FBI.

She made the request through her attorney for an FBI investigation after the FBI already put out a statement they would not be investigating the matter.

We all see that tactic for what it is.
We do know that Lord/s Lawyer Katz ran around to all the media saying "Dr Lord wants to testify to the Judicial Committee" ........ until they postponed their vote and scheduled a meeting for her to do her "testify".

THEN she refused. Why would anyone thing that Dr. Lord would actually talk to the FBI? I bet she has not even considered that IF they got involved, SHE would be the first one they interrogated. It's a crime to LIE to the FBI -- would she really take that chance? Would her Lawyer take that chance? I doubt it.

I would not be surprised at all if the FBI is already investigating HER. Kavanaugh is a Federal Judge and likely to be a US Supreme Court Judge - He is under the protection of the US Marshall Service, but they might be interested in knowing more about Dr Ford and her accusations.

Dr Lord (and her high school) have scrubbed the Internet and Social Media of her existence - but nothing is ever really gone. I've already seen her high school year books - not pretty.
 
Old 09-20-2018, 08:56 AM
 
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I think it's interesting that one person is BEGGING for an FBI investigation and the other person is not.

If Ford were lying - why would she ask the FBI to investigate?
We've been through that already. It's more than obvious a stall tactic to postpone the vote until after the midterms but you seem to be oblivious to it.
She has nothing to lose. If after the investigation the FBI finds nothing, then it remains a he said vs she said issue.
The FBI can't say it never happened, they can only say they haven't found any evidence of it happening. She and the dubious Dems win by having the vote postponed.
 
Old 09-20-2018, 08:57 AM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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And I responded that no judge would accept that case (as a comparison), so why have any type of investigation? Sad I have to explain it like that...


This thread moves fast, keep up with it...try...
You are the one not keeping up. It matters not one whit what would happen in a courtroom. Zip; zero; zilch.

The 'investigation' would NOT be a criminal investigation but rather just an enhanced background investigation.

Do you get it now? I typed slow . .
 
Old 09-20-2018, 08:57 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Now it's rape....
No, chuck.

Take a deep breath.

Relax.

Attempted rape.

Let's see how this plays out. Because if the Pubs cram Kavanaugh through w/o investigation, it'll likely show up in the polls in a few weeks, with women nationwide energized. And if they slag all over Dr Ford in a public hearing, they'll energize women that way, too.

Are you old enough to recall 1992 being "the year of the woman" following how the senate Pubs crapped all over Anita Hill? And that was only verbal harassment.

Kavanaugh: family values... law and order...

 
Old 09-20-2018, 08:58 AM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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We've been through that already. It's more than obvious a stall tactic to postpone the vote until after the midterms but you seem to be oblivious to it.
She has nothing to lose. If after the investigation the FBI finds nothing, then it remains a he said vs she said issue.
The FBI can't say it never happened, they can only say they haven't found any evidence of it happening. She and the dubious Dems win by having the vote postponed.
Not until after the midterms. Give it a week - isn't that about how long they took with Anita Hill?

Vote could be held in October - well BEFORE the mid-terms.
 
Old 09-20-2018, 08:59 AM
 
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Because she has to be able to tell when it happened, where it happened, how many were there, and why are the her doctors notes wrong, to start the investigation....


Again, bring that to ANY judge and you'll get laughed out of court, period....


Ma'am, your were sexually assaulted, yes judge.


Where: Cannot remember.


Judge: Well when?


Sorry cannot remember that either.


How many boys?


Nope, cannot remember that either, and BTW the notes that my doctor took are wrong..


Judge: get the hell out of my court....
I absolutely agree with you. If there's no physical evidence whatsoever, and only the testimony of a woman about something that happened THRITY years ago and she can't even remember where she was, than an FBI investigation would bundle all of that information together into a report and formally send that to the committee. All the more reason I would think the GOP would welcome a formal FBI investigation, as it would make Catherine Ford and the democrats look incredibly silly.

My point is, it would leave no room for doubt. IF the committee pushes through with just hearings on Monday and no formal investigation, the democrats will continue to scream and shout about how this is unfair. But if a formal FBI investigation was done, it would completely squash the dems complaints and they'd have nothing else to whine about.
 
Old 09-20-2018, 08:59 AM
 
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Hypothetical: IT NEVER HAPPENED. Catherine Ford is lying, this is all a political stunt to delay the Kavanaugh confirmation. (which is what a lot of Trump supporters believe)

A formal, unbiased, non-partisan investigation by the FBI is conducted. Catherine Ford, Brett Kavanaugh, Mark Judge, and others at the party are questioned by the FBI and nothing comes of it. There is no evidence and all the witnesses (outside of Ford of course) say there was no sexual assault. Since there isn't much there to begin with, the investigation takes 2 weeks at the most. The investigation is over.

A week later, the FBI releases a formal report that absolves Kavanaugh of any wrongdoing. Democrats look stupid and their efforts to delay the Kavanaugh confirmation get exposed, boosting GOP poll numbers for November and hurting Dems.

The investigation and formal report by the FBI only takes 2 weeks, still over 30 days before 11/6, so the vote to confirm Kavanaugh is not impacted at all by mid-terms at all.

Kavanaugh is formally absolved by an official investigation, democrats get dragged through the mud bigly, and GOP gets a yuge boost for November 6th while the "blue wave" dissipates.

How do the republicans not want this?
That will never happen, especially under the circumstances you describe. The most they would report in your hypothetical is that she claimed to be assaulted and the two males claim it didn't happen.

They will make no judgement of who is telling the truth.

Back to square one.

How is it you are capable of dreaming up these improbable/impossible scenarios, but you are not capable of understanding reality and how your government works?
 
Old 09-20-2018, 08:59 AM
 
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Not until after the midterms. Give it a week - isn't that about how long they took with Anita Hill?

Vote could be held in October - well BEFORE the mid-terms.
You don't know that at all. They'll need to do a lot of digging, interviewing people going back 35 years or so. It ain't gonna happen in a couple of weeks. They are starting with zero information.
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