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View Poll Results: How many votes will Brett Kavanaugh get for confirmation in the Senate?
61 or more 63 13.55%
58-60 32 6.88%
55-57 61 13.12%
50-54 198 42.58%
49 or less 111 23.87%
Voters: 465. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 09-28-2018, 12:42 PM
 
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The Democrats are laughing at them in this back room....they know exactly what they are doing.

They know that there is NO WAY to "limit the scope" of an FBI investigation.

They know that they will get a windfall of allegations that go on forever and a bunch of "what abouts" to create doubts about it.

the GOP will not gain turn ONE Democrat even with this "investigation" no matter what the final report says, how do they not see this? They are going to vote down the party line no matter what.

They still have 2 hours to get this right.
If anything, this will clear Brett Kavanaugh's name. When the FBI says "We looked. Nothing to see. Move along.", he will be confirmed. This is not about getting any Democrats. It's about making sure all the Republicans vote to confirm and give them the ammunition to fight off the moonbats who are protesting.

 
Old 09-28-2018, 12:42 PM
 
Location: My beloved Bluegrass
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Originally Posted by itshim View Post
The Democrats are laughing at them in this back room....they know exactly what they are doing.

They know that there is NO WAY to "limit the scope" of an FBI investigation.

They know that they will get a windfall of allegations that go on forever and a bunch of "what abouts" to create doubts about it.

the GOP will not gain turn ONE Democrat even with this "investigation" no matter what the final report says, how do they not see this? They are going to vote down the party line no matter what.

They still have 2 hours to get this right.
They aren’t worried about turning any Democrats, they are worried about keeping the vote of three Republicans. They couldn’t care less about Coon’s, Booker’s, or Feinstein’s vote - they care very much about Flake’s, Collin’s, and Murkowski’s vote.
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Old 09-28-2018, 12:42 PM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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If McConnell gets his 50 votes he'll say screw that agreement, we vote Tuesday.
He doesn't have 50 votes if the other Senate moderates back this compromise (which they are likely to do imo).
 
Old 09-28-2018, 12:42 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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What does Flake think a one week FBI investigation will do for allegations of things that happened 40 years ago without a shred of actual evidence? This charade is just being dragged on. If Flake loses to the Dem, I won't cry and apparently it won't matter much.
 
Old 09-28-2018, 12:42 PM
 
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She signed an affidavit saying she wasn't raped by Clinton. End of story.
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Yes. Which is why her comments now confuse me.

Of course, had she not signed it and had Democrats not listened while she swore Clinton raped her, I would absolutely feel like Democrats were wrong for not taking those allegations seriously.
Yes and no. She did sign an affidavit saying she wasn't raped. But she also was secretly taped saying that "it was just a horrible horrible thing," and that she "wouldn't relive it for anything." When told she would likely be subpoenaed she said that she would deny it ever happened, adding that "you can't get to him, and I'm not going to ruin my good name to do it… there's just absolutely no way anyone can get to him, he's just too vicious."

She was subpoenaed in the Jones suit soon after and submitted an affidavit denying that Clinton had made "any sexual advances". The recording of Broaddrick's conversation with the investigators was leaked to the press, but Broaddrick continued to refuse to speak to reporters.

When Ken Starr approached her and offered her immunity for lying in the Jones case, she recanted her prior denial and said he had raped her and has said repeatedly that he raped her since that time (1999).

She expressed the same fears and concerns that Ford expressed. If we're going to be consistent, why should she not be believed?
 
Old 09-28-2018, 12:42 PM
 
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http://a57.foxnews.com/hp.foxnews.co....jpg?tl=1&ve=1

This reminds me of a Norman Rockwell painting.

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Old 09-28-2018, 12:42 PM
 
Location: Fort Lauderdale, FL
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It's a win-win. Mostly for the GOP. Net result, it's one step closer to final. It's out of committee. It's one vote away. It also allows the GOP to go into mid-terms saying they do want the truth and allowed the FBI to investigate. It also allows the Dems to claim success in getting an FBI investigation. But if they don't abide by the scope limits and try to delay further in one week, they will appear as even more dishonest.
Yea, but who is going to determine the scope limitations?

We cannot have this turn into another Carte Blanche Mueller Investigation were they go hunting for a crime and not stick to investigating the allegations!
 
Old 09-28-2018, 12:43 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Unless other witnesses previously unknown have come forward and can be placed at the incident I don’t see the reason to get the FBI involved. The witnesses have sworn statements under penalty of felony that debunk Dr Ford’s claim already. What a stall tactic of the highest degree.
 
Old 09-28-2018, 12:43 PM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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Yes, again what has that got to do with the fact that they don't investigate anything but federal crimes?

You do understand what a background check is, right?
You don't appear to understand that a background check involves an investigation into the individual's background.
 
Old 09-28-2018, 12:43 PM
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Of course a new accuser will step forward and the Dems will want to expand the FBI scope. Geez, who doesn't see this coming?
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