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Old 09-13-2018, 09:36 AM
 
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Nothing fishy about it. Somewhere in the sequence between "left station" and "parked car in garage" the very pertinent yet omitted detail is "went and got drunk somewhere." Because the physiological condition known as "being drunk" is why you park on the wrong floor of the garage, go to the wrong floor on the elevator, go to the wrong apartment door, fail to notice the differences like red welcome mat, shoot a silhouette and why you are seen pacing the hallway making "oh f_ukc, oh f_ukc" phone calls after all is said and done. Dear lawyer, I got drunk and blasted someone in their own house....tell me what my story needs to be to skate this?

At some point, that missing detail will be made public, since anyone with a freaking brain already knows that's how it went down.

Hopefully, Officer Guyger gets dropped into a cell that has bars so thick, they stay cold in the summertime, and she spends a few decades staring at those bars while pondering her actions.
Agree with all of this. They said she was tested for drugs and alcohol within hours after the shooting.

Once it comes out that she was wasted drunk, Dallas PD will separate themselves from Officer Guyger and leave her out to dry.

Regardless of what charges are brought against her, she will be in jail for a long time. And rightfully so.
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Old 09-13-2018, 09:55 AM
 
Location: Nantahala National Forest, NC
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Nothing fishy about it. Somewhere in the sequence between "left station" and "parked car in garage" the very pertinent yet omitted detail is "went and got drunk somewhere." Because the physiological condition known as "being drunk" is why you park on the wrong floor of the garage, go to the wrong floor on the elevator, go to the wrong apartment door, fail to notice the differences like red welcome mat, shoot a silhouette and why you are seen pacing the hallway making "oh f_ukc, oh f_ukc" phone calls after all is said and done. Dear lawyer, I got drunk and blasted someone in their own house....tell me what my story needs to be to skate this?

At some point, that missing detail will be made public, since anyone with a freaking brain already knows that's how it went down.

Hopefully, Officer Guyger gets dropped into a cell that has bars so thick, they stay cold in the summertime, and she spends a few decades staring at those bars while pondering her actions.


Agree...her powers of reasoning were diminished...alcohol seems most suspect...
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Old 09-13-2018, 10:10 AM
 
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Agree with all of this. They said she was tested for drugs and alcohol within hours after the shooting.

Once it comes out that she was wasted drunk, Dallas PD will separate themselves from Officer Guyger and leave her out to dry.

Regardless of what charges are brought against her, she will be in jail for a long time. And rightfully so.
She was in uniform, I doubt she went out to a bar and got plastered in uniform. She did work a 15 hr shift, which is crazy. That level of exhaustion could be just as disorienting as being drunk and that is what she can use as a defense regardless of what really happened that night. Why did they have her working so many hours in a job where she needs to be alert.
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Old 09-13-2018, 10:14 AM
 
Location: Lone Mountain Las Vegas NV
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Nothing fishy about it. Somewhere in the sequence between "left station" and "parked car in garage" the very pertinent yet omitted detail is "went and got drunk somewhere." Because the physiological condition known as "being drunk" is why you park on the wrong floor of the garage, go to the wrong floor on the elevator, go to the wrong apartment door, fail to notice the differences like red welcome mat, shoot a silhouette and why you are seen pacing the hallway making "oh f_ukc, oh f_ukc" phone calls after all is said and done. Dear lawyer, I got drunk and blasted someone in their own house....tell me what my story needs to be to skate this?

At some point, that missing detail will be made public, since anyone with a freaking brain already knows that's how it went down.

Hopefully, Officer Guyger gets dropped into a cell that has bars so thick, they stay cold in the summertime, and she spends a few decades staring at those bars while pondering her actions.
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Agree with all of this. They said she was tested for drugs and alcohol within hours after the shooting.

Once it comes out that she was wasted drunk, Dallas PD will separate themselves from Officer Guyger and leave her out to dry.

Regardless of what charges are brought against her, she will be in jail for a long time. And rightfully so.
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Agree...her powers of reasoning were diminished...alcohol seems most suspect...
All highly improbable. From the start they know when she clocked out and when she called 911. Any substantial delay would have been picked up.

Face it. She drove to the wrong floor and then went on autopilot to what she believed was her apartment.

The real important thing is what happened next.
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Old 09-13-2018, 10:39 AM
 
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I would think booze plays a factor as well. As I wrote before, I knew a girl in college who did the same thing, although there was no violence. One of the local sports radio guys described how he did it at Notre Dame.

But it is not an excuse. What she did was horrible.
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Old 09-13-2018, 11:13 AM
 
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How about security cameras in the building? On each floor in the hallways. I would want that if living in an apartment building in the city.
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Old 09-13-2018, 11:15 AM
 
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She was in uniform, I doubt she went out to a bar and got plastered in uniform. She did work a 15 hr shift, which is crazy. That level of exhaustion could be just as disorienting as being drunk and that is what she can use as a defense regardless of what really happened that night. Why did they have her working so many hours in a job where she needs to be alert.
I've worked 12, 18 and 24 shifts as law enforcement, and none ever disoriented me to where I parked on the wrong floor of the garage, got off on the wrong floor of the elevator, went into the wrong apartment, etc. I have, however, been drunk quite a few times, and while drunk have forgotten where I parked my car, gone to the wrong apartment, slept outside, gotten my ass kicked for being obnoxious, etc.

Long shifts don't make you as "disoriented" as Guyger had to have been to get all those daily tasks all wrong. Nope, that's drunk, stoned, something. My money is on drunk, because drugs get tested for and alcohol does not. She was drunk, goofed up and someone is dead because of it. Not a real complicated story, and she'll be the most popular girl on her cell block.
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Old 09-13-2018, 11:17 AM
 
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On another thread in a different forum on which this incident was mentioned, someone claimed they read an article stating that two witnesses living in the same complex overheard her saying, "Let me in!" to the victim. Has anyone else read this? I was unable to find an article to corroborate that. If it's true, though, then, well, this had to be more than manslaughter.
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Old 09-13-2018, 11:28 AM
 
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https://dfw.cbslocal.com/2018/09/11/...rrested-dwi-4/

Well, here's one that got arrested for DWI yesterday.
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Old 09-13-2018, 11:29 AM
 
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On another thread in a different forum on which this incident was mentioned, someone claimed they read an article stating that two witnesses living in the same complex overheard her saying, "Let me in!" to the victim. Has anyone else read this? I was unable to find an article to corroborate that. If it's true, though, then, well, this had to be more than manslaughter.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/botham-...putes-account/
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