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Old 09-09-2018, 05:24 AM
 
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Originally Posted by jambo101 View Post
The wall will not stop the flow of illegal immigrants as they will easily find ways to bypass it,in the meantime US tax payers will be on the hook for the billions of $$$ it will cost to build a wall that will accomplish nothing..
Speed limit signs DON'T stop ALL speeders does it but, we STILL put them up.

Murder is AGAINST the LAW yet, we still have murders.

A wall will NOT 100% but,if it stops even 70% it is STILL a good idea.

Where a wall HAS BEEN BUILT, illegal crossings are WAY DOWN.

You CAN'T argue against FACTS!
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Old 09-09-2018, 05:25 AM
 
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Based on recent reportings, the military will likely just continue to ignore Trump's directives and desires.

"Based on recent reportings,"


Sorry you ACTUALLY BELIEVE the LSM!
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Old 09-09-2018, 05:27 AM
 
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I think it is ineffective to the Visa overstayers (a significant chunk, I've seen stats saying they're the majority of undocumented residents)

And

It's a waste of money when you could use much cheaper technology to do the same thing.

A wall hundreds of miles long just is stupid in 2018.

"A wall hundreds of miles long just is stupid in 2018", believing ONLY a wall has been talked about IS stupid!
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Old 09-09-2018, 05:36 AM
 
Location: Lancashire, England
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Join the US Army and learn to be a bricklayer!
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Old 09-09-2018, 05:36 AM
 
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Why do you need the Democrats for? Trump and the GOP control all of the branches of government.
You guys run the show now so stop blaming the Democrats for your inability to fulfill a campaign promise!
"Trump and the GOP control all of the branches of government."

Genius, MANY things, in order to get passed by the Senate REQUIRE 60 VOTES.

"You can see that the rise started as soon as the rules changed, in the 95th Congress, but it really took off in the 110th Congress, starting in 2007. At this point, unless you're planning to name a post office, you're going to need 60 votes."

https://www.quora.com/Why-does-Congr...ny-legislation

And WHO had control of Conress in 2007?

110th United States CongressSenate MajorityDemocratic (coalition)House MajorityDemocraticSessions
110th United States Congress - Wikipedia


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/110th_...tates_Congress

I LOVE how some like to make complete fools of themselves by making ignorant claims.
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Old 09-09-2018, 05:46 AM
 
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Our country has always been the land of the free where we welcomed everyone who wanted a better life. What do you think would happen to our country without them. For one thing farmers would suffer
"Our country has always been the land of the free where we welcomed everyone who wanted a better life"

Damn that public school "education"! Don't you work for the federal gov't?

If what you claim is TRUE, why do we have an INS agency and immigration LAWS which go back to 1875?

"History. Shortly after the U.S. Civil War, some states started to pass their own immigration laws, which prompted the U.S. Supreme Court to rule in 1875 that immigration was a federal responsibility. The Immigration Act of 1891 established an Office of the Superintendent of Immigration within the Treasury Department."Immigration and Naturalization Service - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigr...zation_Service
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Old 09-09-2018, 05:49 AM
 
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There in lies the problem, that damn statue of liberty.
It is high time to get rid of it, and all it stands for.
It was great when it was needed after the world wars, but it has outlived it usefulness.
We can no longer subscribe to that foolishness.
"Tired and oppressed", you bet, I am damn tired and oppressed at having to support all these illegal aliens.
The farmers could benefit from a guest worker program, if the government was strict about enforcing it.

Bob.

"There in lies the problem, that damn statue of liberty.
It is high time to get rid of it, and all it stands for."


We did NOT build it NOR put the inscriptions on it. It was the french, so we are NOT beholden to ANYTHING it says.
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Old 09-09-2018, 05:51 AM
 
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The wall won't keep out any voters...illegals can't vote. And there is no evidence of major voter fraud.

Your Utopia doe NOT exist!
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Old 09-09-2018, 05:55 AM
 
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Soldiers didn’t sign up to become brick masons. Take your own asses down to the border and build a wall.

Soldiers defend this nation. They didn’t join a construction crew.
"Soldiers didn’t sign up to become brick masons" Another fine example of some NOT knowing what they are talking about"

"Builder (abbreviated as BU) is a United States Navy occupational rating. A builder is responsible for the construction and repair of wood, concrete, and masonry structures. Their work can involve sheet rock, ceramic tile, or painting, while senior personnel deal with material estimates and labor projections."

Builder (United States Navy) - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Builde...ed_States_Navy)
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Old 09-09-2018, 06:00 AM
 
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Both titles have to do with who pays for national guard troops, and service personnel.

It has always been the responsibility of the states to use the national guard, even though they are paid by the federal government.
If called upon, the guard could be used at the border to carry out the same duties that the marines would be doing.

Not sure if an executive order by the President could order the marines to the border.
He is the commander in chief of the armed forces.
I am thinking it would need to be approved by congress, but I am not sure.
I did a little research just now, and the Posse Comitatus act states the following.

The Posse Comitatus Act, which passed after the Civil War to keep federal troops from policing the South, limits federal troops' deployment on U.S. soil and forbids using them to enforce domestic laws. The President can deploy troops if there's an insurrection or invasion on U.S. soil.Apr 3, 2018

Obviously this country in under invasion from our southern border, and the President would be correct in sending the marines to the border.

In another article I read, it stated that the navy and marine corp are not mentioned in the act, so legally a president could use them to quell an invasion.
By invasion, one would normally think of troops from a foreign country, but the act does not state specifically what constitutes an invasion.
I would call over 11 million people entering this country illegally, and invasion.

Bob.

"so legally a president could use them to quell an invasion."


Many would claim the 11 million, I think it is MUCH HIGHER then that, illegals hee now ARE an "invasion"


Our southern border is being "invaded' EVERY HOUR of the day.
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