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Old 09-11-2018, 07:09 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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For now.
I'll be good forever. Socialists don't initiate violence according to you, right?
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Old 09-11-2018, 07:15 PM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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I'll be good forever. Socialists don't initiate violence according to you, right?
Yes, we don't.

We're the most peaceful people in the world: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zapati...nal_Liberation
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean...n_in_Manchuria

Look at these societies, the people lived among each other in peace. That is because we follow human nature (daoist philosophy) we do not resist it with artificial greed and commaditization of our fellow human beings.

Mutual Aid is the root of the human psyche.
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Old 09-11-2018, 07:17 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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Yes, we don't.

We're the most peaceful people in the world: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zapati...nal_Liberation
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean...n_in_Manchuria

Look at these societies, the people lived among each other in peace. That is because we follow human nature (daoist philosophy) we do not resist it with artificial greed and commaditization of our fellow human beings.

Mutual Aid is the root of the human psyche.
Great. Do it over there. Cross me and die.

Why are we still going over all this?
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Old 09-11-2018, 11:26 PM
 
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Currency can be spelled out in the contract.

Rocks, paper notes, gold, sex...get your capitalism on as you see fit.

Consensual agreements. Voluntary associations. Freedom of movement.
So we're going back in time? Not using a streamlined system of simply using a universally recognized form of currency?

As a great woman on youtube once said "Ain't nobody got time for that "
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Old 09-11-2018, 11:33 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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So we're going back in time? Not using a streamlined system of simply using a universally recognized form of currency?

As a great woman on youtube once said "Ain't nobody got time for that "
Laziness is not an excuse to enslave people.

Don't sell yourself short. Maybe you can come up with ideas on how to "streamline" exchanges. If it gives you confidence to embark on such an endeavor go ahead and make a badge out of construction paper then write on it in crayon "Government". Slap it on your chest and I'm sure the ideas will magically come to you.
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Old 09-11-2018, 11:37 PM
 
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Laziness is not an excuse to enslave people.

Don't sell yourself short. Maybe you can come up with ideas on how to "streamline" exchanges. If it gives you confidence to embark on such an endeavor go ahead and make a badge out of construction paper then write on it in crayon "Government". Slap it on your chest and I'm sure the ideas will magically come to you.
Too busy focusing on my career goals. Gotta get up early and head to my new job, won't be back til' 9PM. I'm got no time to make up my own currency or build roads or patrol my property with a rifle.
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Old 09-11-2018, 11:43 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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Too busy focusing on my career goals. Gotta get up early and head to my new job, won't be back til' 9PM. I'm got no time to make up my own currency or build roads or patrol my property with a rifle.
Good luck at the new job.

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Old 09-11-2018, 11:48 PM
 
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Good luck at the new job.

Thanks. Enjoying it so far.
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Old 09-12-2018, 12:50 AM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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If progressives want anarchy due to Trump, good luck.

Progressives can’t even solve inner city violence, let alone trying to coordinate some type of coup or socialist revolution.

Liberals want to be Che Guevara but don’t want to do the killing.
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Old 09-12-2018, 07:59 AM
 
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Read Kropotkin's Mutual Aid: A Factor of Evolution to understand why.

Anyways, here's the list:

https://listverse.com/2016/06/29/10-...tually-worked/
1. You've become a thread spammer.

2. A poor post to start the thread. A proper thread is started with a post that tells you everything that you need to know to reply. Reading your post, I have no idea what you are talking about.

3. Anarchism is a modern communist's tool toward breaking down an old order. Full stop. Its a promise for a "free society", only believed by fools, that is never kept as the oppressive communist State inevitably rises to prevent anything else from filling the vacuum. As it always has and always will, on both counts.

Thus, anarchism as a promised end-state is a ruse. Especially in a 300 million person disparate nation. In smaller regions, which act as de facto national socialist states with common cultures and people, "anarchy" can have the illusion that it works because everyone knows how and has a will to cooperate. In the real world, we have millions of dysfunctional lumpenproles, and worse (de facto ethnic mafias), that will continue to require a form of State authority so that they do not ruin society. That's ignoring the further issue that a State is always required for defense against other States. Which you and other communists know, but omit in your ruse.

We've been down this road in other large communist States. No thanks.

Your family has been here for no time at all and you are already trying to overthrow the system. That reflects poorly on you and your people. Why come in the first place? My suggestion is that instead of saying "I don't have enough stuff, I want to set off a political bomb to get more stuff" (don't lie to me) like a lazy newcomer, do the intergenerational work that every immigrant family must do to gradually improve your lot over time. You are speaking with people whose Fathers have gone to war to generations to defend our nation, and we've paid the price. You've paid nothing. Zero. And you feel entitled to come here and agitate for communism? GTFO.
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