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Its...divisive. And Clinton agrees with you saying it was something she regretted saying. But to pick that one up to be mad at her? Something she regretted saying? Yeah no. I don't expect perfection from folks.
I'm still pissed about the ***** grabber comment too. Maybe I'm just fantastic at holding a grudge.
A lot of people I know are liberal Democrats, and it seems to me they will agree with anything a Democrat says or does, and disagree with anything a Republican says does.
So, to me, that means they are not really thinking. Their opinions are just automatic reactions.
If you are a Democrat, have you ever tried to think of something a Republican said that you agreed with, or that a Democrat said that you disagreed with?
My question is...
A lot of people I know are Conservative Republicans, and it seems to me they will agree with anything a Republican says or does, and disagree with anything a Democrat says does.
So, to me, that means they are not really thinking. Their opinions are just automatic reactions.
If you are a Republican, have you ever tried to think of something a Democrat said that you agreed with, or that a Republican said that you disagreed with?
It really works both ways! I was a Republican for most of my life, but I always voted my conscience...so
I voted Democrat as much as Republican...I honestly don't believe in voting a straight Party ticket (it's okay though if that is the way you roll...but it's not how I am.) I would be an Independent if it weren't for the fact that my state has closed Primaries. In some areas I am very Liberal, some areas I am pretty conservative, so I don't fit perfectly in either party...although I align closer to the Democrats right now...
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Originally Posted by greywar
Absolutely. And geuss what? Most Democrats think the exact same about you.
Heres what I have found that separates out the thinkers from the non thinkers. If you have views that don't align well with your party, the odds are you are thinking. If they do align perfectly with the party you identify with? You probably arent thinking.
I would absolutely agree.
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Originally Posted by Good4Nothin
That's what I meant. I never see any Democrats criticize anything a Democrat said, and the same for Republicans.
I think both sides deserve a fair amount of criticism! Both are far from Perfect.
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Originally Posted by rbohm
i think all the time, and i have no problem agreeing with democrats when they are right. and i have no problem disagreeing with republicans when they are wrong.
right and wrong do not live with one party or the other, those conce[ts transcend party lines.
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Originally Posted by crone
There are many of us stuck in the middle with nowhere to go. There's plenty in either party I cannot sign on to.
I feel that way. Trump lies. A lot. Supporting him seems illogical at best. But I dont think being 100% against him is logical either. It leads to biases that do not reflect reality.
I don’t look at it as lying. I think that like a lot of us shoot off the cuff. I think that lying is Obama saying that insurance prices will decline to a certain level, that if you liked your doctor you could keep him, that he saved the economy, etc, etc. He knew that what he was saying was a lie as he was saying it. I feel sorry for rep. Wilson who yelled out at the state of the union address that he was lying. He was made to apologize for his outburst even though he was truthful. I think that his”beer summit “ was disgraceful. Anyone who disagreed with Obama was a racist. What are these crazy democrats called now?
As a matter of fact, tons of Democrats were very unhappy with Obama. What Republicans were too stupid to understand, though, is that we still admired him for some things, and found him far preferable to Romney. That's why Republicans mis-read their polls.
For instance, I was profoundly upset that Obama didn't dismantle some of Bush's surveillance. I was profoundly upset that Al Franken was hounded out. I think Andrew Cuomo seems to be disturbingly corrupt.
As for Republicans, McCain often said things I liked. And I think well of Mueller. I could probably think of other examples, but I'm short on sleep.
Now - your turn. I find that Trump supporters slavishly fawn on his every word. So let's hear some things you disagree with from him. I generally find that most Trumpy posts here are lacking both in thought, logic, and sourced fact.
I don't like either party. I thought the last election was a no-win. Both were extremely bad. Both parties have offered up some clunkers for candidate. If you are honest to yourself, you would find Trump and Clinton both dishonest.
What’s wrong with the ***** grabber comment? I thought you people think.
What people am I?
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