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Old 10-24-2018, 04:31 PM
 
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I don't agree with that. Men are seeing now that there are consequences. They saw Weinstien and other's lives go POOF. The culture of covering up and protecting abusers is changing.

We needed that. But the downsides are significant. And evident all over this thread.

 
Old 10-24-2018, 04:34 PM
 
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Of course the male is the one that has the duty of asking 99% of the time. So a person can accept just to get something free. How about the person asking should be rewarded if one accepts the offer? All the rules feminist have are self serving and unfair.
He doesn't have the duty of asking. We are well beyond that. I figure if someone is taking me out, the reward is in my company, yes? That's why he's inviting me. He probably hopes I will put out at some point, maybe even that night. But I have no problem with not putting out lol.
 
Old 10-24-2018, 05:34 PM
 
Location: A Nation Possessed
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Two words: concealed carry
 
Old 10-24-2018, 11:02 PM
 
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He doesn't have the duty of asking. We are well beyond that. I figure if someone is taking me out, the reward is in my company, yes? That's why he's inviting me. He probably hopes I will put out at some point, maybe even that night. But I have no problem with not putting out lol.
I don't know too many males who are so exceptionally attractive that women would make the first move and ask them out. Most men I know have to approach about 10 women, some average looking and below guys have to approach even more, before a successful date pans out.
 
Old 10-25-2018, 12:35 AM
 
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I don't know too many males who are so exceptionally attractive that women would make the first move and ask them out. Most men I know have to approach about 10 women, some average looking and below guys have to approach even more, before a successful date pans out.
Back when I was dating, I would ask guys out and none were "exceptionally attractive" or whatever. I thought they were cute but not some 9 or 10 or anything. I would pay, too.
 
Old 10-25-2018, 07:41 AM
 
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I don't know too many males who are so exceptionally attractive that women would make the first move and ask them out. Most men I know have to approach about 10 women, some average looking and below guys have to approach even more, before a successful date pans out.
Certainly, women are still waiting for men to do the asking, it's just not the norm anymore, especially since the advent of online datiing.
 
Old 10-25-2018, 07:52 AM
 
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I wonder if a woman carries a gun, a stun gun, takes self defense classes, or otherwise attempts to take measures to reduce her risk of sexual assault, is she more likely to engage in risky behaviors, like going out alone in dangerous areas at night, because she feels more confident because she took steps to protect herself? Or is she less likely, being more aware of the risks? NOTE: I am not saying she is at fault if she is assaulted; only curious about whether she would be more likely or less to do these things AFTER taking proactive steps.
 
Old 10-25-2018, 08:16 AM
 
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I wonder if a woman carries a gun, a stun gun, takes self defense classes, or otherwise attempts to take measures to reduce her risk of sexual assault, is she more likely to engage in risky behaviors, like going out alone in dangerous areas at night, because she feels more confident because she took steps to protect herself? Or is she less likely, being more aware of the risks? NOTE: I am not saying she is at fault if she is assaulted; only curious about whether she would be more likely or less to do these things AFTER taking proactive steps.
Depends on the steps. I think what you're describing is just an added layer of security. Unless they have a need to walk through a dangerous neighborhood, I can't imagine they would. None of the above would help them if they were drunk or were drugged to the point of incapacitation. I hope they'd think ahead to that but you never know.

And it's really too bad you felt you had to clarify you weren't saying they were at fault when you clearly didn't. That's the climate we're in, unfortunately.
 
Old 10-25-2018, 08:28 AM
 
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Threads on this topic really only need to have 4 posts.

"Women should take common sense precautions to protect themselves from sexual assault"
Actually, #1 is still debatable. What are "common sense" precautions? Do they even help? Maybe a woman should just use common sense precautions to protect her overall safety.
The first common sense precaution that I can think of would be applicable in all business and social situations. Know who you are associating with. And if you really don't know, be on guard. And in public.
 
Old 10-25-2018, 12:18 PM
 
Location: Nice, France
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It's been going on for ten days. Such a short time, isn't it?

Everyday, I receive phone calls threatening me, insulting me, threatening rape, slaying my throat and other horrible threats.

Since (as many women), it's not the first time agression has happened to me, I had the reflex to note every hour and date of the phone calls (of course the number is hidden). I also of course put a claim at the local police. These calls are anonymous and on my work phone.

What can I now do?

I own a business that has an open window for clients/ potential ones. I key-close the door (very good for business, isn't it?) and I'm alone.

He watches me as he calls every time I put a jumper on or comment on my clothing every morning.

This morning, garbage bags were spread in front of my shop.

What can I do more except live in fear and not get out unless my partner can get me there and come and get me back?

I REFUSE to live in fear. But I do it, quasi in spite of myself. Wearing trousers and jumpers, as a reflex, as if it meant anything...

Between all of you guys (especially you, mt1) who feel I could protect myself from a crazy guy, please teach me with all your wisdom how to do more

And let me add, I've been practising Krav Maga for years.

Doesn't stop me from beeing terrified.

So please, ô master, what should I do now? Police, friends, neighbourhood, all alerted. Should I stop my business? Wear a drape? Exactly, what do you advise?

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