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Old 10-04-2018, 08:01 PM
 
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In light of daily, never ending new threads from posters sounding the alarm about a culture that is supposedly growing more 'anti-male' with an epidemic of false allegations of rape, don't let these people divert attention away from the fact that sexual assault is a very real problem in our society.

Contrary to the sensationalist opinions expressed on this forum that men are in extreme danger of being accused of rape for simply complimenting a woman on her dress, false accusations of rape are rare as compared to real sexual assaults.

No, guys in general are not being accused of rape from one night stands, guy aren't being accused of rape for complimenting a woman on her looks, etc. etc. Just because the media sensationalizes cases where accusations of rape proved to be false (Duke lacrosse team, etc.), does NOT mean fake accusations are the norm. In fact, those women who typically falsely accuse men of rape fit a certain type of profile with a criminal background, which is why such accusations are rare.

The reasons why people here like to jump on the "most rape reports are false" bandwagon is because it suits their political agendas, and it also diverts issue away from the real issues since they love to live in a happy bubble where men are free to act any way they want towards women without fear (not to mention the women that enable the opinions of these men). This isn't a democrat/republican issue, so stop making it so.



What kind of person makes false rape accusations?

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False rape accusations loom large in the cultural imagination. We don’t forget the big ones: The widely-read 2014 Rolling Stone article, later retracted, about a brutal gang rape at the University of Virginia; the 2006 accusations against innocent members of the Duke University lacrosse team. These cases are readily cited by defense attorneys and Republican lawmakers and anyone else who wants a reason to discuss the dangers of false allegations. What if a woman has consensual sex, and then regrets it the next day? What if a woman gets dumped by her boyfriend and decides to accuse him of rape as revenge? What if she’s just doing it for attention? Are false accusations reaching epidemic levels in today’s hard-drinking hookup culture, where the lines of consent have been blurred? Critics argue that reports of rape should be treated with more caution, since men’s lives are so often ruined by women’s malicious lies.

But my research—including academic studies, journalistic accounts, and cases recorded in the US National Registry of Exonerations—suggests that every part of this narrative is wrong. What’s more, it’s wrong in ways that help real rapists escape justice, while perversely making it more likely that we will miss the signs of false reports.
False rape allegations are rare – rape is not. Stop using the case of Jemma Beale to discredit all women

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False allegations of rape are rare – rape itself is not. It’s understandable, then, that instances of the former are more likely to hit the headlines than the latter.

Why report on a phenomenon that is commonplace, affecting an estimated 85,000 women in England and Wales every year? Rape isn’t news. By contrast, criminal convictions for lying about rape, such as the 10-year sentence handed down to Jemma Beale, command our attention precisely because they are unusual.

Twenty five-year-old Beale, found guilty of four counts of perjury and four of perverting the course of justice, has made international news, with headlines describing her as “attention-seeking” and “a serial liar”. It’s hard not to detect the sense of relief that accompanies the sharing of reports on Beale’s crime.

“See?” the sharers seem to be saying. “We told you women lied about this stuff!” As the comedian Reginald D Hunter tweeted yesterday, “for people who question why we question, here ya’ go”.
Where the Idea of False Rape Accusations Really Comes From

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In fact, it's the lives of survivors who report their assaults that are far more likely to end up “in tatters," as Trump put it, than the lives of the people they accuse. This can get lost amid the broadsides being delivered by the president and his Adult Son in sort of a dynastic #MeToo backlash, but it doesn't change the underlying facts.

“Many, many people report that the trauma and the pain [of reporting their rape] is equivalent to and sometimes greater than the pain caused by the rape itself,” Morris Hoffer told me.

Prosecutors know this. Police do, too. In fact, University of Kansas Law Professor Corey Rayburn Yung told me, many cops warn survivors exactly what seeking justice will cost them—how much time and dignity they will lose, how little hope of an arrest or conviction—as a way of urging them to drop their case. Using federal crime numbers, the Rape, Abuse & Incest National Network (RAINN) estimated that for every 1,000 rapes, 57 reports will lead to arrests, 11 will be referred to prosecutors, and just seven cases will lead to felony conviction.
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Old 10-04-2018, 08:11 PM
 
Location: Lee County, NC
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The culture can be growing more anti-male and still have a problem with sexual assault, the two are not mutually exclusive.
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Old 10-04-2018, 08:28 PM
 
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False rape accusations are actually extremely common. And many men are unfairly labeled "creepy" for innocuous behavior.
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Old 10-04-2018, 08:33 PM
 
Location: A Nation Possessed
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The more people hate this type of person or that type of person, the more false accusations we will have. Hate has no conscience and is not afraid to lie, or worse, in order to punish the hated. History shows this time and time again.
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Old 10-04-2018, 08:33 PM
 
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This happens in many ways now that we all have access to news much faster and so on. For example, people hear about horrific and sad kidnappings of children and believe it's happening more frequently than ever (with the subsequent consequences of such worry, like helicoptering, calling DCS for kids alone outside, etc.) but in actuality, it's safer than before.

https://reason.com/blog/2017/03/31/kidnapping-stats
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Old 10-04-2018, 08:33 PM
 
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It absolutely IS an epidemic. And worse than that because the definition if sexual assault has been progressively expanding to the point of ridiculousness.
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Old 10-04-2018, 08:35 PM
 
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False rape accusations are actually extremely common. And many men are unfairly labeled "creepy" for innocuous behavior.
So....do you have a source for stats on how often?
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Old 10-04-2018, 08:38 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Suburban_Guy View Post
In light of daily, never ending new threads from posters sounding the alarm about a culture that is supposedly growing more 'anti-male' with an epidemic of false allegations of rape, don't let these people divert attention away from the fact that sexual assault is a very real problem in our society.

Contrary to the sensationalist opinions expressed on this forum that men are in extreme danger of being accused of rape for simply complimenting a woman on her dress, false accusations of rape are rare as compared to real sexual assaults.

No, guys in general are not being accused of rape from one night stands, guy aren't being accused of rape for complimenting a woman on her looks, etc. etc. Just because the media sensationalizes cases where accusations of rape proved to be false (Duke lacrosse team, etc.), does NOT mean fake accusations are the norm. In fact, those women who typically falsely accuse men of rape fit a certain type of profile with a criminal background, which is why such accusations are rare.

The reasons why people here like to jump on the "most rape reports are false" bandwagon is because it suits their political agendas, and it also diverts issue away from the real issues since they love to live in a happy bubble where men are free to act any way they want towards women without fear (not to mention the women that enable the opinions of these men). This isn't a democrat/republican issue, so stop making it so.



What kind of person makes false rape accusations?



False rape allegations are rare – rape is not. Stop using the case of Jemma Beale to discredit all women



Where the Idea of False Rape Accusations Really Comes From



Sexual Violence Myths & Facts
Thank you. My fb feed is making me mad. All the political people who would support any Trump pick are on this bandwagon against all women now and it makes me sick.

I'm beginning to have more loathing for people who worship Trump than I do Trump himself. They are like crazed. IDK what is going on.
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Old 10-04-2018, 08:41 PM
 
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The flood of anonymous calls to rape crisis lines where no one is being accused of anything are not lying women. They are calling to talk about their feelings about it. There is a flood after Ford's testimony because whether she is telling the truth or not, the exact same thing or very similar has happened to so many women and got triggered by it.
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Old 10-04-2018, 08:42 PM
 
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Nashville’s Sexual Assault Center is reporting it's seen a 500 percent increase in call volume since last week’s Senate hearings about a sexual assault allegation regarding Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh.
https://www.tennessean.com/story/new...on/1520623002/
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