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Old 10-09-2018, 02:44 PM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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Meh, those scooters have been a bigger issue then antifa.


As a FYI folks-this wasnt antifa out, this was protesters upset about the cops shooting someone. Not sure why you think that its antifa doing that.
Articles stated as much. In an article I cited this morning, it said the protesters were BLM and Antifa protesting a police killing last week. That's why we're saying Antifa.
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Old 10-09-2018, 02:45 PM
 
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Articles stated as much. In an article I cited this morning, it said the protesters were BLM and Antifa protesting a police killing last week. That's why we're saying Antifa.

The headline however seems to make this all about antifa, which is not even remotely correct. Its click bait thats deceptive. Its why I felt the need to point that out, I prefer more factual and true posts.
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Old 10-09-2018, 02:46 PM
 
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There will be MORE property rights with private defense, as they will not be limited in terms of how much force they can use to defend property.
Just wanted to echo this, and expand...

What about the modern state protects property, even marginally? A vague threat of later legal force applied to you should the state decide that you violated whatever they are calling property rights that day and they felt like actually caring that you did. Seriously, that's all "protection of property rights" entails in our current system, and even those marginal, amorphous "rights" decay daily under the incremental march of collectivism.

In a stateless society, where we each assume the defense of our ABSOLUTE property rights of our own volition, the defense is much more immediate, likely more concrete, and very likely more severe, given the theory that once you initiate force against someone, you forfeit ALL your own natural rights, and your punishment is up to those whom you have harmed...yeah, violating property rights won't seem like such a good idea.
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Old 10-09-2018, 02:47 PM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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The headline however seems to make this all about antifa, which is not even remotely correct. Its click bait thats deceptive. Its why I felt the need to point that out, I prefer more factual and true posts.
I think that's because the original post was based on a tweet which mentioned Antifa but not the rest of the story.

But I get where you're coming from.
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Old 10-09-2018, 02:49 PM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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Articles stated as much. In an article I cited this morning, it said the protesters were BLM and Antifa protesting a police killing last week. That's why we're saying Antifa.
yup, local media says the same.

https://www.kxl.com/antifa-threatens...ce-do-nothing/
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Old 10-09-2018, 02:59 PM
 
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It was a group including the family members of the person who was killed. Only really see the right wing talking heads calling it Antifa.
https://www.oregonlive.com/portland/...s_protest.html
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Old 10-09-2018, 03:02 PM
 
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[quote=notnamed;53319452]It was a group including the family members of the person who was killed. Only really see the right wing talking heads calling it Antifa.
https://www.oregonlive.com/portland/...s_protest.html[/QUOTE
Ok they are just left wing DICKHEADS.
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Old 10-09-2018, 03:05 PM
 
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Ok they are just left wing DICKHEADS.
Or you could have a sliver of compassion for the grieving family looking for justice. Even if their method or justification are wrong.
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Old 10-09-2018, 03:09 PM
 
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Or you could have a sliver of compassion for the grieving family looking for justice. Even if you think their method or justification are wrong.
By screaming obscenities, hurling insults ,threatening violence, damaging property? They sure moved me to compassion lol
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Old 10-09-2018, 03:11 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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Just wanted to echo this, and expand...

What about the modern state protects property, even marginally? A vague threat of later legal force applied to you should the state decide that you violated whatever they are calling property rights that day and they felt like actually caring that you did. Seriously, that's all "protection of property rights" entails in our current system, and even those marginal, amorphous "rights" decay daily under the incremental march of collectivism.

In a stateless society, where we each assume the defense of our ABSOLUTE property rights of our own volition, the defense is much more immediate, likely more concrete, and very likely more severe, given the theory that once you initiate force against someone, you forfeit ALL your own natural rights, and your punishment is up to those whom you have harmed...yeah, violating property rights won't seem like such a good idea.
This should be framed and posted where all can see.

What say you, Phantompilot?
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