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Old 10-15-2018, 12:55 PM
 
Location: USA
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I am glad that you are a brilliant climatologist. Should be nominated for Nobel Prize.
I assume that is sarcasm. What did I say that was incorrect?

I claim no expertise. I simply try to be an informed citizen and learn as much science as I can, even as a non-scientist.

 
Old 10-15-2018, 01:20 PM
 
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https://www.google.com/amp/nymag.com...than-that.html

Fact, leaving capital control in the hands of private power have left our global well being on the precipice of destruction.

The natural world, fresh water, all formulated by organic beings in the pursuit of mutual aid form the circle of life. Bees pollinate plants while in turn plants offer food and vegetation to the living world. Algae is consumed by fish who offer natural and voluntary regulation for natural living.

Read Mutual Aid:A Factor of Evolution by Peter Kropotkin to understand that from any colonies, to bee hives, to white tail birds, to plant life, to wolf packs, to human settlements, communal help is what has brought us to success, not artificial power and economic control.

Today capitalism is forcing authoritarian dictations on private power who act on their own needs, wasting the land for their own profit and leading to climate destruction.

We must save this world and finally free ourselves to form a self sustaining society we’re nature and man live in harmony, not by the invisible control of business wealth.

There is no denying what is happening, we must act now.

LOL the sky is falling the sky is falling !!!!.....warming and cooling have been happening for thousands of years, it's just lately the goons of the left have found a honeypot they can extort funds from capitalists and make us look bad. A hoax that Trump won't fall for, and anybody with a brain can see through.

Look through those bloodshot eyes at that yellow ball in the sky that's a bazillion degrees and let it soak in that it may have a bigger influence on warming and cooling than some GOP Suv...............and oddly enough we may be heading into a little ice age.........Gore just can't get a break.

https://news.nationalgeographic.com/...space-science/
 
Old 10-15-2018, 01:31 PM
 
Location: USA
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Originally Posted by Vf6cruiser View Post
LOL the sky is falling the sky is falling !!!!.....warming and cooling have been happening for thousands of years, it's just lately the goons of the left have found a honeypot they can extort funds from capitalists and make us look bad. A hoax that Trump won't fall for, and anybody with a brain can see through.

Look through those bloodshot eyes at that yellow ball in the sky that's a bazillion degrees and let it soak in that it may have a bigger influence on warming and cooling than some GOP Suv...............and oddly enough we may be heading into a little ice age.........Gore just can't get a break.

https://news.nationalgeographic.com/...space-science/
Did you know that they use satellites to measure solar radiation directly?
 
Old 10-15-2018, 02:29 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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Theoretically, there can be run-away global warming with enough forcing. It’s thought to have happened on Venus.

"Thought" is the operand. It has never been proven.


The fact that Earth's atmosphere was 74% N2 and 26% CO2 for nearly 2.5 Billion years is proof it won't ever happen.


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And yet, carbon dioxide really does absorb infrared radiation.

That's a misleading statement.

CO2 absorbs at 2.7 microns, 4.3 microns and 15 microns.

Since Earth does not emit Black Body Radiation at 2.7 microns, we only have to look at 4.3 microns and 15 microns, and we'll apply Wien's Law to both.

Wien's Law T (Temperature) = b / wavelength in micrometers, where "b" is a constant equal to 2,900 um-K.

T = 2,900 um-K / 15 um = 193°K = -112°F

T = 2,900 um-K / 4.3 um = 673.9°K = 753°F

What we can infer from science is that 4.3 microns has far greater energy than 15 microns, however the amount of Black Body Radiation Earth emits at 4.3 microns is minuscule, as this link proves:

https://eesc.columbia.edu/courses/ee...absorption.gif
 
Old 10-15-2018, 02:36 PM
 
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That old saying, is old men fear what they don't understand. And by extension given time they either learn to not fear it, or learn to justify their fear as non-existent.
 
Old 10-15-2018, 02:38 PM
 
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That old saying, is old men fear what they don't understand. And by extension given time they either learn to not fear it, or learn to justify their fear as non-existent.
Then again, President Franklin D. Roosevelt famously said: 'The only thing we have to fear, is fear itself.'
 
Old 10-15-2018, 02:54 PM
 
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Then again, President Franklin D. Roosevelt famously said: 'The only thing we have to fear, is fear itself.'
And Y2K...wait
 
Old 10-15-2018, 03:26 PM
 
Location: USA
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CO2 absorbs at 2.7 microns, 4.3 microns and 15 microns.

Since Earth does not emit Black Body Radiation at 2.7 microns, we only have to look at 4.3 microns and 15 microns, and we'll apply Wien's Law to both.

Wien's Law T (Temperature) = b / wavelength in micrometers, where "b" is a constant equal to 2,900 um-K.

T = 2,900 um-K / 15 um = 193°K = -112°F

T = 2,900 um-K / 4.3 um = 673.9°K = 753°F

What we can infer from science is that 4.3 microns has far greater energy than 15 microns, however the amount of Black Body Radiation Earth emits at 4.3 microns is minuscule, as this link proves:

https://eesc.columbia.edu/courses/ee...absorption.gif
You can copy and paste. Good job.

Climatologists are mostly unaware of Wien’s Law. Once they see this post from you, they will rightfully conclude that carbon dioxide is not a greenhouse gas. The entire physics and chemistry community has been wrong all along!
 
Old 10-15-2018, 03:36 PM
 
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You can copy and paste. Good job.

Climatologists are mostly unaware of Wien’s Law. Once they see this post from you, they will rightfully conclude that carbon dioxide is not a greenhouse gas. The entire physics and chemistry community has been wrong all along!
*Mircea’s house is suddenly surrounded by government helicopters. One lands and two agents come out and say “sir, the president wants to speak to you. You cracked the secret”

Last edited by Chicano3000X; 10-15-2018 at 04:44 PM..
 
Old 10-16-2018, 10:55 AM
 
Location: Kentucky Bluegrass
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Don't believe everything you read...I think what he's saying is, he denys the fact that human's are causing it....b/c he did say and I watched him say, that he doesn't believe the impact is from humans, he believes it's just the natural cause of things....so do I.

I believe humans have an impact but not to the extent that they are causing it....
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