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Old 11-21-2018, 01:02 AM
 
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I don 't like what the Saudi's did to this guy. But, at the same time, I don't care that much about it either. The public murder of one man by another government who wasn't a United States Citizen is not enough if a reason to destroy all diplomatic relations with another country. What Trump has now is a big chip he can play against the Saudi's for years to come. It's always the long game with Trump. The Saudi's have been killing their own people for years and not a peep from anyone. But because Kahsogghi was a sometime contributor to rags like the Washington Post I am supposed to care now? Guess what? I don't. The guy had a risky job and if he was dumb enough to allow himself to walk willingly into an embassy knowing he might not walk out then that is entirely on him. The false outrage on this one is laughable.

You clearly do not believe in America and what we once stood for....Trump and his apologists and handlers and family are deliberately undermining the foundation of our country.

You say this now. Who will be there to speak up for you, when needed? Shame is where this president has placed us and it is despicable.. BTW your callous assumptions are incorrect. Individual human rights as well as what this journalist was attempting to advance are important and something the USA once championed. So much for the USA as being a beacon of hope and a model of advanced citizenry.


First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

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Old 11-21-2018, 05:14 AM
 
Location: OH->FL->NJ
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Maybe only the ones who attack us on 9/11 (mostly Saudi Citizens) and kill our USA Permanent Residents.
False equivalency. If you wish to punish SA for 9-11 has zero to do with Kashoggi.

Kashoggi was NOT a permanent resident. He was under an "O" visa for geniuses sponsored by his employer.

There are some interesting international law avenues to explore against SA, but the US owes him nothing.
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Old 11-21-2018, 06:13 AM
 
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So Trumpers support the torture and dismemberment of an innocent man simply because Donald Trump is a historic coward who can never once stand up for the right thing. You people are f****** monsters.
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Old 11-21-2018, 08:24 AM
 
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Default Saudi Arabia First, Not America First, even GOP allies outraged of Trump’s defence of the Prince

https://www.businessinsider.com/repu...illing-2018-11


Also:
DONALD TRUMP MOCKED BY IRAN: 'PERHAPS WE'RE ALSO RESPONSIBLE FOR CALIFORNIA FIRES BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HELP RAKE THE FORESTS'
(Sry for caps, the link pated like that)
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Old 11-21-2018, 08:39 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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Trump and his family pocket book first! Morality and humanity do not enrich the Trump dynasty or represent the GOP.
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Old 11-21-2018, 08:42 AM
 
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Then let those supposed allies do something about it. Are they? Of course not, they are all talk. Where's the UN? Isn't this exactly something the UN exists for?
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Old 11-21-2018, 08:48 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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Then let those supposed allies do something about it. Are they? Of course not, they are all talk. Where's the UN? Isn't this exactly something the UN exists for?
The murdered man was a legal resident of the US.
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Old 11-21-2018, 08:53 AM
 
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The murdered man was a legal resident of the US.
Mic drop!
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Old 11-21-2018, 08:57 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Then let those supposed allies do something about it. Are they? Of course not, they are all talk. Where's the UN? Isn't this exactly something the UN exists for?

It's exactly something Trump said he would do. As is not unusual with Trump, what he said was apparently just so much more BS to be added to the YUGE manure pile he's spent his entire life creating.


https://www.reuters.com/article/saud...-idUSL2N1WT06B
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Old 11-21-2018, 09:05 AM
 
Location: Cape Cod
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The Left is flipping out over this because Trump is exercising something they told us he was incapable of and that is Diplomacy.

We have so many dealings with Saudi and they are a form of an ally in the ME, we don't have too many of those.. so why would he purposely destroy the relationship we have?

What does the Left expect Trump to do, send in a Seal team to kidnap the Prince and bring him to a US court to be prosecuted? How about firing a volley of missiles into the country?



The Left is so quick to jump to conclusions when it suits them like with the Kavanugh hearings. The evidence is mounting that the Prince was involved in the murder but has there been a trial yet? I thought that we still believed that people were innocent until proven guilty?



Trump shouldn't have said anything about it but then again the media pressures him to make a statement and we all know that Trump doesn't need much prodding to put his foot in his mouth. If he had said nothing he would still be criticized.
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