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View Poll Results: How will illegal immigrant invasion caravan effect midterm election
Help Republicans 203 74.09%
Help Democrats 21 7.66%
No effect 50 18.25%
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Old 11-09-2018, 05:01 PM
 
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No news since the mid terms. Coincidence? I doubt it. Another ploy to scare the dumb who watch Faux.

Did you not read or just ignore the explanations for this under this topic?
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Old 11-09-2018, 07:16 PM
 
Location: New York Area
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The fact that the first wave of migrants had stopped in Mexico City to rest and await the caravans coming behind them offered little to report for the past few days anyway.

I've read that there is some impatience and division among the migrants. They are divided over which direction to take. Tijuana is a long journey, whereas McAllen is just a couple days. There are several groups fronting the caravans, and they seem to be working in different directions.

The most ominous thing so far that I've read was a Honduran nun who is accompanying the lead caravan tell Telemundo that "this is just the beginning. What we are seeing is the beginning of a mass exodus from Central America". I fully believe it. I was in Honduras not two years ago. It's a god damn train wreck. Belize, another country I visit, is poised to have trouble in the future as well. Muy malo future.
Maybe some people should see the wisdom in U.S. "interference" and even coup sponsorship in these countries.
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Old 11-10-2018, 07:53 AM
 
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Chuck and Nancy are already scheming to give these caravan members and their current and future offspring citizenship in order to continue to steal elections and steal this country. The only way their agenda can succeed and the only way they can win elections is by importing new voters, which makes their made up theories about Russian collusion all the more laughable.
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Old 11-10-2018, 08:44 AM
 
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Chuck and Nancy are already scheming to give these caravan members and their current and future offspring citizenship in order to continue to steal elections and steal this country. The only way their agenda can succeed and the only way they can win elections is by importing new voters, which makes their made up theories about Russian collusion all the more laughable.
I call BS. Where are you getting this information? Got any credible references whatsoever?

This is EXACTLY the kind of misinformation that gets bombs sent to people, and YOU are helping to spread it.
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Old 11-10-2018, 03:54 PM
 
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Mexico said it would give this caravan of people "land".... if we are so afraid of it, and willing to spend 100's of million on the Military at the Border..

WHY could we not work with Mexico, and go there and "help" set up "Tent Cities" to assist Mexico with handling these people?, we could easily put up $100 million, instead of spending $200+ million
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We import every kind of vegetable we eat from Mexico and Central America.. if we set up a Tent City and Helped Mexico with its Farming system.... they could find the means to give these people work and they could also contribute to feeding themselves as they reshape their lives, and we would benefit as well by a lower cost to imported vegetables and other items we import from Mexico.
Then; we work with Mexico to help them with their own Border because they likely would like to create means to the people don't continue to feel they can charge through the Southern Mexico Borders....

We whine and grip rather than to think.... Fear Fixes Nothing... but if we simply "think" and do so with compassion, we can find means to deal with matters far better than all the belligerent fear mongering that's going on.

A Tent City would have the potential to get "U.N. Support" in Mexico for Tent City, Security..... and it might help the world learn in other nations how to better handle the influx of "Migrants" and "Asylum Seekers"....

We could very easily set up processing in a Tent City, to screen those who qualify for Immigration and Asylum in America. It would benefit America, and it would benefit Mexico, as well as it will benefit these people.

We don't need to think only in Brute Terms... We should have had our Diplomat in Mexico working on this type of idea when we first got word of a caravan moving West....

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Old 11-11-2018, 07:54 AM
 
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Has anyone done any research into all the photographs taken of the "caravan"?

Look how neat, organized and compact it is.
There are people in high-visibility safety vests, guiding the group. Who's idea was that? The Mexican government?
They "march" in a relatively uniform group, all on the same road, and all together, all at the very same time.

Usually when people flee a country, as "refugees" seeking asylum, they come in dribs-and drabs. A few here, a few there. It slowly grows to a flood, and then fades. One or two here, 100 more, 500-some-odd there, a family a small village. Some come by land, over dozens of various roads, tracks and trails over the border. Frequently strung out over many miles and days, weeks, months. Multiple routes get used all at the same time without any sort of really distinct staring point or time.

The numbers crossing over start to tick up and as the crisis worsens the numbers get larger, and then it tapers off. Not here. This group, all together and all at once. In some other cases they might come by boat, by sea, if available along the coast, even trans ocean.

Not this group. All together, all at one time, all en masse.

When people flee its from an entire area, spread out over hundreds even thousands of miles. How did this group all end up at the same place ready to march? Did they get together BEFORE heading out? That would have meant that they all moved to a central location in Honduras, or Guatemala, BEFORE illegally crossing over into Mexico. It had to have been planned.
People fleeing chaos almost NEVER do so by plan. They hang on until the last minute typically.

We've already seen how this group has been getting funded. People running up and down the line handing out money. Almost never do groups get funded along the way.
They more often get US/UN/NGO support at a refugee center AFTER they arrive, at a particular place in large numbers. The support organizations can only really manage to assist refugees if large numbers are all located in a hand full of places. It pays to have them all together, easier to support and manage.

In no way is this an "accidental" migration. All sorts of indications that there's something else behind it.
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Old 11-11-2018, 07:56 AM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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Has anyone done any research into all the photographs taken of the "caravan"?

Look how neat, organized and compact it is.
There are people in high-visibility safety vests, guiding the group. Who's idea was that? The Mexican government?
They "march" in a relatively uniform group, all on the same road, and all together, all at the very same time.

Usually when people flee a country, as "refugees" seeking asylum, they come in dribs-and drabs. A few here, a few there. It slowly grows to a flood, and then fades. One or two here, 100 more, 500-some-odd there, a family a small village. Some come by land, over dozens of various roads, tracks and trails over the border. Frequently strung out over many miles and days, weeks, months. Multiple routes get used all at the same time without any sort of really distinct staring point or time.

The numbers crossing over start to tick up and as the crisis worsens the numbers get larger, and then it tapers off. Not here. This group, all together and all at once. In some other cases they might come by boat, by sea, if available along the coast, even trans ocean.

Not this group. All together, all at one time, all en masse.

When people flee its from an entire area, spread out over hundreds even thousands of miles. How did this group all end up at the same place ready to march? Did they get together BEFORE heading out? That would have meant that they all moved to a central location in Honduras, or Guatemala, BEFORE illegally crossing over into Mexico. It had to have been planned.
People fleeing chaos almost NEVER do so by plan. They hang on until the last minute typically.

We've already seen how this group has been getting funded. People running up and down the line handing out money. Almost never do groups get funded along the way.
They more often get US/UN/NGO support at a refugee center AFTER they arrive, at a particular place in large numbers. The support organizations can only really manage to assist refugees if large numbers are all located in a hand full of places. It pays to have them all together, easier to support and manage.

In no way is this an "accidental" migration. All sorts of indications that there's something else behind it.

Most likely the current administration since it has given Trump something to talk about NON-STOP until after the Mid-terms.
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Old 11-11-2018, 08:26 AM
 
Location: Austin TX
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Most likely the current administration since it has given Trump something to talk about NON-STOP until after the Mid-terms.
Cone on, Ringo. You are much, much smarter than this.

At least I always thought that you were.
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Old 11-11-2018, 11:58 AM
 
Location: Pacific Northwest
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Latest I have read at ABC News, 900 have left Friday after resting and are on their way and another 4,000 was planning on leaving Saturday for our border. They are in fact still attempting to enter our country for those who are doubtful.

One man that was interviewed said he was deported for driving without a license and wanted to get back here to be near his two children.

Another man in a different updated story was deported after a dui. I am not sure why these two stories were shared, but to me its just more confirmation that those seeking to claim asylum, do not qualify and don't deserve to be here.
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Old 11-11-2018, 03:52 PM
 
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It didn't.

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