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It seems to escape the Dotard that we have an immigration system to deal with people wishing to immigrate to America. I wonder why he has to make a great drama out of every attempt tp come to the US. It started with the middle east, moved to anyone of Islamic background, and now is focused on Latin and South America.
Does all this appeal to his base? Keep out anyone who is not a white male like me?
It's time to get over it. Come to the border, file the paperwork, and let our well developed system process people just like we have for generations. Not everyone is trying to "storm the southern border" as Donald would have his followers believe. Most are ordinary people trying to escape autocrats who would have them killed for their democratic beliefs.
Why do you seem to think it's a bad thing to want to protect our borders from being "ILLEGALLY" crossed?
Actually once they set foot in the US you cannot send them back. You have to deal with them and then send them back to their origin country. That is by international treaty.
People asking for asylum are vetted. People that are not asking for asylum are dealt with as they are, law breakers. Everyone now arrested when crossing the border illegally since they are breaking the lsw, they are trespassing into the country unknown unvetted without permission. People not asylum seekers are taken to court the judge either charges them and finds them guilty and deported or the judge charges them and then tells them to come back at a later date to find out how they stand (Obama's old way of ignoring the law aka catch and release). Most of those people don't qualify as asylum seekers so they choose to break the law anyway and get arrested.
Actually once they set foot in the US you cannot send them back. You have to deal with them and then send them back to their origin country. That is by international treaty.
You try that at JFK. They'll send you back so fast you won't even feel it. Nobody has to "deal" with them. There's something about the southern border.
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And yes of course you could do things that make them deport themselves. For instance you could kill the oldest child of those who don't leave. Would probably work if you could actually do it. But then again the oldest child may well be a citizen. So then we have to kill or jail forever our agent.
Or we could be more civil and simply jail all who hire an illegal. Simple huh. But we also jail all who fail to hire a Hispanic citizen who applies and is not hired for fear he/she is illegal.
In no time at all it would become impossible to tell who was actually running the business.
Overboard much?
Rework the e-verify system to one that works better than the current one and make it nationwide and mandatory. It won't be 100% effective, by a long shot, but it would be better than the way it is now.
Rework the Constitution regarding birthright citizenship so that people cannot just walk across the border to drop a baby and suddenly that baby is a citizen.
Rework the laws on social services so that the [illegals] families of a birthright citizen baby/child cannot receive/benefit from welfare, food stamps, etc.
Create stricter laws for ID theft/use of stolen identities, with extremely harsh penalties.
Build the wall, to keep people from just waltzing over the border anytime they feel like it.
and so on.......
Opposing protecting our borders doesn't make any sense to me. All I can think to make some kind of sense of it is liberal politicians and the media convince them to oppose it and they do as they are told. I wonder if they ever asked themselves about the consequences. If they're unhappy now about the rich, they support the very thing that will make the rich, richer.
The dems have been saying for 2 yrs that we dont need a wall, and can use people and technology to secure the border instead, and they don't like deploying the military to foreign countries, so they should be happy if we use the military to secure the border.
Here is the rub. Nobody is turned back. So basically there is no border. Everyone gets in under the pretense of asylum. It takes a simple executive decision. All applications for asylum are only accepted at the US consulate offices, not at the border.
80 percent of "the ones before them" fail to show up for their court hearings after they are processed.
The problem is is that there isn't really any political will on either side of the isle to get this done. They can put a man on the moon for heaven's sake they can solve this issue if they really wanted to. The elite powers that be don't give a rip about the sovereignty of America and that is why nothing is getting done. It benefits too many people in the upper echelons for a myriad of reasons.
Trump looks like he is going to stop this march in it's tracks - at least we have one guy not afraid to do it. That's why we elected a non-politician in the first place!
I'm not sure how to stop them, but just want to people to know they started in this country, and aren't some illegals who invaded us.
Plenty of ways to stop them
1. Pull any and all funding to their home country govt. (oh yeah - Trump already mentioned this)
2. Arrest them at the border
3. Put them on the next plane, train, bus, or Uber back to Honduras
They will think twice about trying to invade us again.
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