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View Poll Results: Should we pay 5 billion for a wall Trump promised Mexico was to pay for?
Yes, we should. Mexico will pay us back. 127 37.91%
No, we don't need more wasteful spending. 208 62.09%
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Old 12-28-2018, 01:19 AM
 
Location: PRC
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I think I am right in saying the economy is helped by money circulating faster.

However much money it costs, the money all goes to help the economy. Whatever money is spent on - in this case the wall - it goes to the workers, which gets spent in the stores which gets to pay the store workers who buy stuff from other stores and so it gets circulated throughout the economy.

So, it does not make sense to point at how much something is costing the country and say it is too much. If we want the economy to be better, then we have to get the money circulating faster.

 
Old 12-28-2018, 01:26 AM
 
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I think I am right in saying the economy is helped by money circulating faster.

However much money it costs, the money all goes to help the economy. Whatever money is spent on - in this case the wall - it goes to the workers, which gets spent in the stores which gets to pay the store workers who buy stuff from other stores and so it gets circulated throughout the economy.

So, it does not make sense to point at how much something is costing the country and say it is too much. If we want the economy to be better, then we have to get the money circulating faster.
Er....if it's an inefficient use of the money, it's not helpful. We could choose more inexpensive methods that would allow us to fund other projects too. Replacing our crumbling infrastructure would be a great way to do what you are saying should happen.
 
Old 12-28-2018, 01:35 AM
 
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It's a waste of tax money to build a useless wall when any illegal wants to come in can, there are a dozen ways to enter the country. Also a wall can't be built to cover the entire US/Mexico border. There will be hundreds of open gaps.
Take the money and help the poor, the needy, the veterans, the sick, better the roads etc, something more useful.



If illegals continue to cost taxpayers $135 billion per year, there won't be any money for what you list above.



I invite anyone that is against the wall to come down here and see the mess for yourself. Most of you won't do it.
 
Old 12-28-2018, 01:54 AM
 
Location: California
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Yes. We'll probably need more than that, but less than what it's currently costing us by not having a wall of some sort.
 
Old 12-28-2018, 01:55 AM
 
Location: Knoxville, TN
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Another cop was shot and killed in California tonight by an illegal alien.

Stop supporting these pitiful scumbags and build the wall. And while they're doing that, deport every illegal they can find and cut funding to sanctuary cities.
This!
 
Old 12-28-2018, 07:41 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Trump has shut down the government over what he proposed Mexico was to pay for. Should we pay for it?

But tRump sez we don't gotta pay even one dime for his wall.

 
Old 12-28-2018, 07:44 AM
 
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LOL at Democrats using the “too expensive” line of argument. These people have never seen a spending program they didn’t like regardless of how ineffective it is. Half of congressional Democrats are pushing a 40 trillion dollar universal healthcare program. Illegal immigration costs us hundreds of billions of dollars a year. They just don’t want to give Trump a political win, they hate Trump more than they love our country. If I were trump I would hold the line on the wall, 99% of the furloughed non-essential government employees are Democrats anyway. They will pressure the lawmakers to give trump the money once they miss a few paychecks.
It’s expensive, ineffective (because ladders exist), benefit no one (besides who would get the building contract) and is not even wanted by the majority of those most directly effected (Americans living in border states).

Your premise would be relevant only if it were effective, there is literally nothing to suggest it would be. Not for nothing, just a few weeks ago a supposed caravan of hundreds of thousands of immigrants were headed for the border, and they were stopped WITHOUT A WALL. Clearly it is not needed.
 
Old 12-28-2018, 07:47 AM
 
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Another cop was shot and killed in California tonight by an illegal alien.

Stop supporting these pitiful scumbags and build the wall. And while they're doing that, deport every illegal they can find and cut funding to sanctuary cities.
And you think someone capable of using a gun would be incapable of using a ladder?

And facts tell us that most people who are illegal immigrants are overstays from legal immigration. Do you have any evidence at all that a wall would have prevented this man from entering or that he wasn’t a legal overstay because otherwise stop posting about your FEELINGS.
 
Old 12-28-2018, 07:51 AM
 
Location: Fort Payne Alabama
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Your premise would be relevant only if it were effective, there is literally nothing to suggest it would be. Not for nothing, just a few weeks ago a supposed caravan of hundreds of thousands of immigrants were headed for the border, and they were stopped WITHOUT A WALL. Clearly it is not needed.
True, let's bring home the thousands of troops stationed in Germany, Japan, Irac, and Afghanistan, station them on our Southern border, problem solved!
 
Old 12-28-2018, 08:07 AM
 
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Geezus, not another wall thread. The parrots will be out in full force again, crying denying and complaining.
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