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I don't know what Earl the Security Guard was thinking or how Massey acted prior to all this. I do know that Earl asked what room Massey was staying in and while still on the phone, Massey told him "I don't know." Massey didn't present the key till the manager showed up.
It's studies and research that should influence our analysis of incidents like this one at the hotel or the black guy trying to cash a check. We don't know and can't ever really know what is in another persons mind to say it was racism or not. However, if one is aware of studies it not unreasonable to believe that race plays a role in a good number of them.
People do not want to address studies.....because they feel threatened by them. More accurately, their beliefs about blacks crying and making up racism is threatened, which means that the whole foundation of their argument is threatened.....and the don't want to give up their beliefs. I posted 3 studies thus far in these threads, all were ignored. People would rather focus on incidents like this, were racism can't be proven and thus people feel strong that they can make a tenable argument against the claim that it is racism. However, studies offer less opening to debunk the claims of a general level of racism in society.
I don't know but there is always more to the story than the victim's account, and snippets of video. Like I said on the other thread, I am a natural born skeptic and one of my life mantras is "Seek first to understand" so I always look at the "side stories." Demeanor, dress, behavior in other venues, other eyewitness accounts, etc. I don't jump to conclusions and I am definitely NOT a racist. But I am a pretty skeptical person. I freely admit it. I have often thought I should have gone into law or forensics.
None of that, however, required calling the police.
This is getting ridiculous. The security guard was doing his job and Massey did not corporate and showed out, yet the security guard is on leave? Makes no sense at all. If security ever questioned me because I came in late and was in the lounge, I would definitely cooperate. This isn't about race, it is about people no longer having respect for others, especially those in authority.
None of that, however, required calling the police.
It's my personal opinion that black people, most of the time, are not aware of when they are being discriminated against. For example, there was a study showing that resumes with black sounding names get rejected at twice the rate of whites, all other things being equal. There are also countless studies that show the prevalence of racism in whites. Here is one recent one. The kids probably do not know that they are being stereotyped by whites. Most racism is not visible directly and its not visible from up close either because new racism is about stealth. Yet, we know it exists and is not uncommon.
I don't know what percentage of claims of racism are correct, but I think its natural, given the amount of racism in the history of this nation and the fact things have improved, that blacks think that there is more racism than there probably is. On the other end, however. Whites likely think that racism is a lot less prevalent than it actually is.
The general studies and findings of research on racism is something many whites refuse to address, but always try to excuse or dismiss.
On the bolded, we see examples of this here all the time. Somewhere between the two beliefs lies the truth.
There have been a few studies about whites rejecting people with black sounding names. Did you know black hiring managers do the same? I know this because they've told me so. And I think black folks are well aware of this discrimination but they think it's always a case of discrimination and ill-will on the part of white people.
Isn't 'easier' kind of a natural bias we all lean toward as human beings? I've stated previously that given two resumes of equal education, experience and skills - most people are going to hire the person who doesn't require everyone having to learn how to pronounce and spell a first name. I'm not talking about names like Latasha or Keisha, but names that are more complex. And hiring managers are definitely going to hire a Brittany over someone who may accuse a manager of all kinds of things if they don't pronounce or spell their name properly.
Not necessarily discrimination of ill-will, but this hypersensitivity you say white folks should have an expectation of, is a liability. And most folks, regardless of race, don't want to shoot craps when it comes to their own hides at work, their careers, or their reputations.
This attitude of 'let's make this as simple as possible' doesn't just involve names, by the way. Given two candidates with equal education, experience and skills - one of whom doesn't dress properly - the hiring manager is going to go with the one who already knows what appropriate attire is. One less thing to worry about - so it's just easier. Given two equal candidates, one who lives 40 minutes away and one who lives 90 minutes away and the hiring manager is more likely to go with the closer candidate. Less apt to be late during bad weather, so it's just easier.
You can't, on one hand, say there should be an expectation of hypersensitivity when it comes to dealing with black people given their history, and expect white people to be willing to take a chance on them knowing something could go very wrong if they misstep. Life just doesn't work that way.
I'm not trying to be a wise guy. I'm just being honest about it.
ETA: And yes, in many cases hiring managers just won't hire minorities, but I'm trying to explain that this is not the only motivating factor in the results of such studies.
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Do we whites, as a group, hold our own accountable?
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On this forum, no. If a Black person does something stupid, it falls on the shoulders of the entire Black community to look inside, change things, right itself, what mistakes have we made as a community that created this problem??
Meanwhile, if a White person does something stupid, light up a school, a concert whatever, it’s ***CRICKETS***
On this forum, no. If a Black person does something stupid, it falls on the shoulders of the entire Black community to look inside, change things, right itself, what mistakes have we made as a community that created this problem??
Meanwhile, if a White person does something stupid, light up a school, a concert whatever, it’s ***CRICKETS***
That's why you can't have a civil, unbias racial discussion here. I learned that a long time ago. Some posters here just insist on being right and telling minorities and women how they should feel, what their experience is or isn't and why discrimination is justified. It's a pointless cycle on this forum.
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