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Old 01-13-2019, 08:24 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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Originally Posted by chucksnee View Post
Why were 60 votes needed? It's pretty simple.....even after trump gave the dems double DACA.....
Nope. Reread, nice and slow this time.

 
Old 01-13-2019, 08:24 AM
 
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Trump Let His Goal of Building a Border Wall Slip Away

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...wall-slip-away


Yep. Trump owns this government shutdown because of his slammed shut mind!

You mean the dems slammed shut mind....why were they filibustering, if they cared about DACA so much?
 
Old 01-13-2019, 08:25 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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This is what an idiot trump is:

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In a private meeting regarding the wall Monday, Trump fumed at senators and his own staff about the $1.6 billion the Senate is planning to send him this fall, according to two people familiar with the meeting. Trump wants the full $25 billion upfront and doesn’t understand why Congress is going to supply him funds in a piecemeal fashion — even though that’s how the spending process typically works
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The president said at the meeting that if Congress doesn’t give him the resources he needs for border security, he will shut down the government in September, according to one of the people familiar with the meeting. He did not give a specific number, but has been fixated on getting the $25 billion in a lump sum.
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/...gration-653530
 
Old 01-13-2019, 08:27 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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You mean the dems slammed shut mind....why were they filibustering, if they cared about DACA so much?
Have someone read it for you and explain it to you. Or review that third grade civics textbook.


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Senate Democrats offered to provide $25 billion in border wall funding earlier this year in return for giving 1.8 million young undocumented immigrants a pathway to citizenship. But Trump and most Republicans rebuffed that proposal to salvage the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program. Democrats are unlikely to provide $25 billion for Trump's wall absent a much broader immigration deal.
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/...gration-653530
 
Old 01-13-2019, 08:27 AM
 
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Nope. Reread, nice and slow this time.



Yes, go get you grandchild to cipher for you...


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Sure, it needed 60 votes to advance,

And stop confusing the 2, there were 2 votes, 2 separate votes...neither passed....one was because republicans did not vote with the presidnet and the other was because the dems were filibustering....


So yes, please go re-read the link you posted and stop blurring the line between 2 separate votes....
 
Old 01-13-2019, 08:30 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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Trump caused the government shutdown and is an idiot of a negotiator!!!


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the president had gotten Senate Democrats to offer him $25 billion in border-wall funding, in exchange for permanent protections for former DACA recipients.

And Trump turned them down.
Trump Floats
 
Old 01-13-2019, 08:32 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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Yes, go get you grandchild to cipher for you...





And stop confusing the 2, there were 2 votes, 2 separate votes...neither passed....one was because republicans did not vote with the presidnet and the other was because the dems were filibustering....


So yes, please go re-read the link you posted and stop blurring the line between 2 separate votes....

FYI, if the Democrats were on board, (which they were for allowing 25 billion for a wall in exchange for DACA) there would have been over 60 votes. Use a calculator if that helps.
 
Old 01-13-2019, 08:47 AM
 
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FYI, if the Democrats were on board, (which they were for allowing 25 billion for a wall in exchange for DACA) there would have been over 60 votes. Use a calculator if that helps.





Thank you, the dems were NOT on board and you just stated that...if they were on board they would not have needed 60 votes.....it's really not that hard....well, it appears it is for you, its extremely hard...60 votes equals filibusterer =s dems not on board....
 
Old 01-13-2019, 08:49 AM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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Originally Posted by chucksnee View Post
Thank you, the dems were NOT on board and you just stated that...if they were on board they would not have needed 60 votes.....it's really not that hard....well, it appears it is for you, its extremely hard...60 votes equals filibusterer =s dems not on board....
Yes - they were. They offered 25B in in exchange for DACA.

The "great negotiator' said no and NOW he's shut down the government for 5B.

Yeah. Amazing negotiator that guy.
 
Old 01-13-2019, 08:51 AM
 
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Thank you, the dems were NOT on board and you just stated that...if they were on board they would not have needed 60 votes.....it's really not that hard....well, it appears it is for you, its extremely hard...60 votes equals filibusterer =s dems not on board....

Try reading the news links which will also be history one day.
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That deal has been on the table for more than a month now: Trump gives Democrats a path to citizenship for 1.8 million Dreamers; Democrats give Trump his full $25 billion wall funding request. The Trump administration balked at this clean trade when the Senate was negotiating immigration in February and again in the weeks before the omnibus. The master dealer always wanted something more, be it sharp cuts to family-based immigration or enhanced interior enforcement. Democrats were willing to blow money on Trump’s vanity project, handing him a political victory, but they were never going to secure Dreamers’ future by agreeing to the sharpest tightening of legal immigration levels in decades or selling out other undocumented immigrants.

It is confounding that Trump didn’t just take the deal.
Yes, he may have gotten some heat from Breitbart over the “amnesty,” but no one reads Breitbart anymore.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/...all-offer.html

Yep! Trump owns the shutdown!
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