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Old 01-18-2019, 10:28 AM
 
Location: Proxima Centauri
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Originally Posted by RowingFiend View Post
This is priceless.

Trump is brilliant and 100% right.

Yeah, brilliant. The popular opinion was that the Dems. were going to wait for the next election. Nancy has the power and the chutzpah to push for impeachment charges.
If Donnie's kids get indicted he may not be able to get them off. Things are starting to get real around the Mueller investigation, and things don't look good for Donnie. He embarrassed the most likely person to spare him an impeachment trial.

I'll bet that Mitch can't put that on the back burner.
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Old 01-18-2019, 10:31 AM
 
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Nancy's SOTU gambit was very childish and very petty... Trump initiated a proportional response.
This.

Democrats need to knock it off with trying to pin this all on Trump when they bear just as much responsibility for the shutdown.

Trump has the stronger position here as he has expressed many times his willingness to compromise on immigration reform, so long as the wall is funded. And he has even compromised on the wall itself in terms of design and funding amount! He has been very reasonable here.... democrats? not so much.
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Old 01-18-2019, 10:33 AM
 
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Great post.

The thing is, the Republicans in Washington will be expected to fight back from now on, and if they refuse to in the years to come, they will be called out very loudly and publicly as the cowards that they are. They will not be able to get by with it and hold themselves out as anybody's leaders any more.

Trump has changed that for good and the Democrat left need to accept that getting rhetorically or politically punched in the face in response to them having rhetorically or politically thrown the first punch, is now the new normal.

Get used to it leftists, because this is how it is going to be.
Trump is doing irreparable damage to the Republican Party.

How are they going to continue to stand up when they person they stood behind committed multiple felonies, and is likely to be impeached?

The longer that a Republican stands behind Trump, the longer that their name, and judgement will be tarnished.

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This.

Democrats need to knock it off with trying to pin this all on Trump when they bear just as much responsibility for the shutdown.

Trump has the stronger position here as he has expressed many times his willingness to compromise on immigration reform, so long as the wall is funded. And he has even compromised on the wall itself in terms of design and funding amount! He has been very reasonable here.... democrats? not so much.
Trump called it his Shutdown, said he was proud to do it.
We elected Democrats in the house in a landslide so that they would have the power to stop the wall.

Trump is the one who can, and will stop the shutdown. He will cite a national emergency, allocate funds for the wall (that will go nowhere but court) and end the shutdown. Why can't he just do it now as opposed to making innocent people suffer more?

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Old 01-18-2019, 10:35 AM
Status: "This too shall pass. But possibly, like a kidney stone." (set 8 days ago)
 
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Originally Posted by ryanst530 View Post
This.

Democrats need to knock it off with trying to pin this all on Trump when they bear just as much responsibility for the shutdown.

Trump has the stronger position here as he has expressed many times his willingness to compromise on immigration reform, so long as the wall is funded. And he has even compromised on the wall itself in terms of design and funding amount! He has been very reasonable here.... democrats? not so much.
It's a little disingenuous to say the democrats have pinned this all on Trump, when he publicly pinned it all on himself to begin with.
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Old 01-18-2019, 10:36 AM
 
Location: Dangling from a mooses antlers
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Have any of the Trump supporters in this thread addressed how 7 REPUBLICAN congressmen were also scheduled to travel with Pelosi on this trip?

Or did they just ignore that and celebrate Trump "sticking it" to Pelosi?

WHO CARES? Those 7 Republicans shouldn't have been going over there either. In these days of instantaneous communications there are much better, more efficient and cheaper ways to accomplish this stuff. Absolutely zero reason to be spending taxpayers dollars for these folks to globetrot around the world.
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Old 01-18-2019, 10:37 AM
 
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What a funny way to look at it.

To me, keeping her from going on that trip that she undoubtedly wasn't looking forward to as a vacation is akin to a child slamming their bedroom door after being sent to their room.

Totally ineffective, and immature.
What a funny way to look at it.

To me, keeping him from presenting his state of the union message to Congress as usual was akin to a child slamming their bedroom door after being sent to their room.

Totally ineffective, and immature.
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Old 01-18-2019, 10:37 AM
 
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What a funny way to look at it.

To me, keeping him from presenting his state of the union message to Congress as usual was akin to a child slamming their bedroom door after being sent to their room.

Totally ineffective, and immature.
Who is keeping him from presenting his State of the Union message to Congress?
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Old 01-18-2019, 10:41 AM
 
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Congress can get those briefings at any time via our highly paid intelligence community. They have no need to be there, they make zero decisions on what we do in an active war zone, that is the President's job.

She wanted a week long, taxpayer funded, trip overseas. She is notorious for wasting tax dollars on personal travel.
No she didn't. Who wants to go to a war zone for fun? Give me a break. She was going with leaders of the Armed Services, Intelligence, etc. You guys really need to wake up.
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Old 01-18-2019, 10:42 AM
 
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Trump is a bully. But guess what....so are Pelosi, Schumer, and most of the rest of the so called Congressional leadership. Pelosi, etc.... are not used to the republican playing hardball. They are used to apologies, running for cover, more apologies, resignations, and above all political correctness. Well guess what -- that isn't Donald Trump. I would have thought they would have figured it out after two years. And Pelosi just got a reminder.
Yeah, he's so tough, putting our armed forces and civilians on the ground in Afghanistan in danger. What an idiot and a threat to this country he is.
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Old 01-18-2019, 10:43 AM
 
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It's a little disingenuous to say the democrats have pinned this all on Trump, when he publicly pinned it all on himself to begin with.
Trump may have initiated the shutdown, but he stated in very clear terms at the beginning, ways in which the shutdown could be stopped, and those terms have been very flexible.

The reality is, Trump AND the Democrats have the means of ending the shutdown. A compromise is the only practical solution to ending it, and thus far, Democrats have shown that playing politics is more important than working together to find a reasonable path forward that both sides can agree on.
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