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Old 01-21-2019, 09:02 PM
 
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He is getting in his base's head in a negative way. They are waking up to the worst president in history.

Trump voters now blame him for the government shutdown
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Recent polling indicates that the government shutdown has caused skittishness among parts of Trump’s base, which has been one of the most enduring strengths of his presidency. An NPR/PBS NewsHour/Marist survey, conducted Jan. 10 to Jan. 13, found that his net approval rating had dropped seven points since December.

One of the biggest declines came among suburban men, whose approval rating of Trump fell a net 18 percentage points, while support from evangelicals and Republicans dipped by smaller margins. Among men without a college degree, the downward change was seven points.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...=.c81d14359266
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Old 01-21-2019, 09:04 PM
 
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Compared to Pelosi, Trump is the apprentice.
LOL.
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Old 01-21-2019, 09:23 PM
 
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Untrue, Trump is the reason we’re in this mess. He had no intention of a reasonable compromise, and this whole shutdown is because of him, and only him!
Really? You're really putting yourself out on that limb?

The Washington Post editorial board is starting to chastise Democrats for reflexively opposing everything, noting that if they truly prioritized the paychecks of Federal workers, they'd play ball:

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/guyben...tiate-n2539331

(I tried to pull this up earlier directly from the WaPo site, but I've run out of free article views for the month)
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Old 01-21-2019, 09:33 PM
 
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Really? You're really putting yourself out on that limb?

The Washington Post editorial board is starting to chastise Democrats for reflexively opposing everything, noting that if they truly prioritized the paychecks of Federal workers, they'd play ball:

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/guyben...tiate-n2539331

(I tried to pull this up earlier directly from the WaPo site, but I've run out of free article views for the month)

Excellent editorial.

Happy 32nd Shutdown Day, now in month 2, within an hour.
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Old 01-21-2019, 09:34 PM
 
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Pelosi, of course, is an experienced politician (since the 1990s), and considered a very competent one.

Trump, on the other hand, is totally inexperienced in politics, and, indeed, was not even a good businessman. The only thing he's really good at is the showmanship of low-end, no-brain reality TV.
Wrong.

Since 1987.
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Old 01-21-2019, 09:35 PM
 
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In fairness to Trump (yes, I just typed that), a degree of showmanship and ability to connect to an audience is a valuable asset to a politician - one that Pelosi completely lacks. She can calculate possible voting blocks standing on her head, she knows what leverage it takes to move what congressmen, you can bet that when she goes into a negotiation she knows where the opposition bodies are buried, complete with six-digit coordinates.

But she can't give a good speech, much less a decent interview, to save her life. <shrug>
^^^^^ This.
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Old 01-21-2019, 09:48 PM
 
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Well, now.

That's a short putt.

The face when you get beat up by a girl.

LOL.

I was wondering which Trump face you were going to come up with on that one.

An amusing choice.
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Old 01-21-2019, 10:12 PM
 
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Bingo.

Pelosi knows Democrats have to stay focused and ride this out.

Most people aren't stupid. They know who started this shakedown. They know who could end it.

Losing .1% GDP growth a week. Last quarter in was 2.8%

Republicans are shooting themselves in the foot. One of these days, they will realize this, get off their rumpled rumps, and will end this shakedown.
There is constant arguing/bickering/debating about who should end it, and about who is at fault.

However, either side could, in fact, end it by giving the other side what the other side wants.
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Old 01-21-2019, 10:15 PM
 
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What, punish the job creators? No cow more sacred to the GOP than that.

Apart from that, you're right. Now, convince Trump that it was his great idea all along, get Hannity & Coulter to call him a wuss if he doesn't pass Trump-verify, and he'll be on board in seconds flat.
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Old 01-21-2019, 10:31 PM
 
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I do think she should have come to the table and reiterated her stance about permanent citizenship for these folks.
So does the Washington Post editorial board.
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