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Obama never did this because he was trying to get around a vote of the Congress. The Congress has, according to the Constitution, the "power of the purse." It seems unconstitutional for the president to seize control of spending.
President Barack Obama
April 12, 2010: The National Emergency With Respect to Blocking Property of Certain Persons Contributing to the Conflict in Somalia was in respect to threats posed by Somali pirates.
February 25, 2011: The National Emergency With Respect to Blocking Property and Prohibiting Certain Transactions Related to Libya froze the assets of Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi.
July 25, 2011: The National Emergency With Respect to Blocking Property of Transnational Criminals was in response to the rise in crime by specific organizations: Los Zetas (Mexico), The Brothers’ Circle (former Soviet Union countries), the Yakuza (Japan), and the Camorra (Italy).
May 16, 2012: The National Emergency With Respect to Blocking Property of Persons Threatening the Peace, Security, or Stability of Yemen addressed political unrest within the Yemen government.
March 16, 2014: The National Emergency With Respect to Blocking Property of Certain Persons Contributing to the Situation in Ukraine was in response to the Russian invasion of Crimea.
April 3, 2014: The National Emergency With Respect to Blocking Property of Certain Persons With Respect to South Sudan was in response to the ongoing civil war.
May 12, 2014: The National Emergency With Respect to Blocking Property of Certain Persons Contributing to the Conflict in the Central African Republic was in response to violence towards humanitarian aid workers.
March 8, 2015: The National Emergency With Respect to Blocking Property and Suspending Entry of Certain Persons Contributing to the Situation in Venezuela was in response to human rights violations.
April 1, 2015: The National Emergency With Respect to Blocking the Property of Certain Persons Engaging in Significant Malicious Cyber-Enabled Activities was in response to Chinese cyber attacks on the U.S.
Nov 23, 2015: The National Emergency With Respect to Blocking Property of Certain Persons Contributing to the Situation in Burundi was declared after a failed coup.
You may notice that every one was about blocking the property of various groups of people. Not one was over a spending bill or authorization of funds.
And which of the above was an actual US National emergency? None.
All those who are hyperventilating over Trump using a national emergency to bypass congress, were you equally upset when Obama did it 13 times?
Oh here we go!
get a clue and read and compare --it was not the same nor did anything he did challenge or usurp (look up this word if you need ),any parts of the constitution like this dictatorship
feeling sorry for the indoctrination into the trumf Reich
False equivalency. There is no president in the past, Democrat or Republican, who asked for funding for something, Congress said no (not only once, but multiple times,) and the president refused to accept this and did it anyway.
So I agree. That He is wrong for doing it. I also feel that it has been abused in the past by others, but without drawing the ire of the left. When Obama used it, how many were for actual US National Emergencies? NONE
That is my point. I have no issue if it is used for a US emergency. Massive oil spill, Nuclear plant melt down, terrorist attack on the nation like 911.
Yemen has dishonest people hiding assets here? Not an emergency. Not even close. Nothing that couldn't and shouldn't be worked out by congress.
No fan of trump at all.
Let"s see Obama used it in regard to Yemen. Why? Why not let congress decide? How was Yemen's political issues our National emergency?
He did it again for the Ukraine . Same questions apply.
My point was and is did those hyperventilating now do so when Obama did it? The answer is no.
How many US citizens have been harmed by illegals? I would say that is more of a US National emergency than political problems in Yemen or the Ukraine.
I would rather see strict E-verify laws enacted and enforced than spending money on the border wall.
Hell we spent over 3 billion on Obama's Obama care website.
Obama spent 40 million on a gas station in Afghanistan.
Obama spent over a trillion dollars on the F-35 turkey.
I can go on and on to demonstrate the hypocritical nature of the left's alleged outrage over spending money.
I am an independent that hates both parties and for the same reason. They are exactly the same.
I didn't like a lot of Obama's foreign policies, that's for sure.
One of the basic ideas of the Constitution is that (1) Presidents don't make the laws, and (2) certain powers - including Power of the Purse - are reserved for the Congress.
With this "national emergency," you conservatives support your guy just bypassing Congress altogether and implementing his policies (which he couldn't get support through Congress) via royal decree.
That's basically called a dictatorship. Might as well disband Congress and just annoint Donald as King.
If you're for this stuff, then you're opposed to the spirit and concept of the Constitution.
Let's be honest. Congress has not been an honest broker. Pelosi made her stance very clear when she refused to negotiate with Trump. When she finally did she made sure there were poison pill provisions built into the bill. That is not honest. Trump was trying to do the right thing and respect the process. Pelosi and the Democrats did not. It's that simple. The problem at the border is real. Trump is going to fix it one way or the other.
Let's be honest. Congress has not been an honest broker. Pelosi made her stance very clear when she refused to negotiate with Trump. When she finally did she made sure there were poison pill provisions built into the bill. That is not honest. Trump was trying to do the right thing and respect the process. Pelosi and the Democrats did not. It's that simple. The problem at the border is real. Trump is going to fix it one way or the other.
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Whenever 90% of the heroin in your country comes from the country on your southern border, killing 15,000 of your citizens each year, it's an emergency.
That's like having a 9/11 attack (3000 dead) 4 times a year.
Can you prove to me the vast majority of people getting in are, in fact, heroin pushers? If not, your claim's logically and evidentially baseless.
There is no 'bypassing' Congress. The authority to declare an emergency is authorized by the laws passed by the House of Representatives and the Senate which the President can implement when conditions exist.
One of the basic ideas of the Constitution is that (1) Presidents don't make the laws, and (2) certain powers - including Power of the Purse - are reserved for the Congress.
With this "national emergency," you conservatives support your guy just bypassing Congress altogether and implementing his policies (which he couldn't get support through Congress) via royal decree.
That's basically called a dictatorship. Might as well disband Congress and just annoint Donald as King.
If you're for this stuff, then you're opposed to the spirit and concept of the Constitution.
Doesn't matter to Trumplings. According to them, he is the law, and anything he says or does is legal and legitimate. Anybody who goes against him (or, should I say Him), is an enemy of the people and deserve whatever Trump does to them.
if you are cool with people entering the country illegally and not paying taxes and voting in our elections, you don't believe in the rule of the law.
you probably should sit this one out.
You think it's OK to violate a law in order to enforce another law. You're another of the "two wrongs make a right" crowd.
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