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Old 01-02-2007, 01:10 PM
 
Location: Colorado
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This must be a joke.
Well it is true, they did suffer the greatest, the foreign aid part I cannot comment on.
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Old 01-02-2007, 01:43 PM
 
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Well it is true, they did suffer the greatest, the foreign aid part I cannot comment on.
Using the word "they," is a bit ridiculous, no? It's like saying that Turkey should be paying Greece for the fall of Constantinople.

Or that Arab North African nations should be paying both assorted Black-African and European countries for their slave trade that lasted hundreds, if not thousands, of years and rivaled the European slave trade in scope.

Or, if you want to use the person I quoted's logic, should "the Jews" not pay Blacks for putting them in slavery and bringing them to America?
After all, many Black scholars have written on the disproportion that Jews played in the slave trade. Which a Jewish professor of history commented on @ http://jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu/~plarson/smuseum/jas.htm (broken link) -- a very interesting read. He basically writes on a book written by a Farrakhan's group. He writes "However we Jews, even liberal ones, who justifiably insist that the history of the Nazi Holocaust not be denied, can hardly urge African Americans to suppress the record of the slave trade and the involvement of our own ancestors in it." His article is an interesting read.
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Old 01-02-2007, 01:47 PM
 
Location: Colorado
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Using the word "they," is a bit ridiculous, no? It's like saying that Turkey should be paying Greece for the fall of Constantinople.

Or that Arab North African nations should be paying both assorted Black-African and European countries for their slave trade that lasted hundreds, if not thousands, of years and rivaled the European slave trade in scope.

Or, if you want to use the person I quoted's logic, should "the Jews" not pay Blacks for putting them in slavery and bringing them to America?
After all, many Black scholars have written on the disproportion that Jews played in the slave trade. Which a Jewish professor of history commented on @ http://jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu/~plarson/smuseum/jas.htm (broken link) -- a very interesting read. He basically writes on a book written by a Farrakhan's group. He writes "However we Jews, even liberal ones, who justifiably insist that the history of the Nazi Holocaust not be denied, can hardly urge African Americans to suppress the record of the slave trade and the involvement of our own ancestors in it." His article is an interesting read.
Like I said the Jewish people (we are talking nazi concentration camps here) did suffer great loss, I know my family was there. As to foreign aid, I cannot comment. I didnt think this forum had anything to do with african american slavery.
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Old 01-02-2007, 02:42 PM
 
Location: The Bronx
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You hear a lot the phrase "Israel has the right to protect itself."

This is kind of like seeing someone with a headache pounding their head on a concrete wall, and saying, "well, they have a right to cure their headache."

Shelling neighborhoods where people live because Hamas decides to use them, in effect, as human shields just makes things worse. This protective wall of theirs that throws burdens onto ordinary people doesn't help either.
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Old 03-29-2012, 10:00 AM
 
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You hear a lot the phrase "Israel has the right to protect itself."

This is kind of like seeing someone with a headache pounding their head on a concrete wall, and saying, "well, they have a right to cure their headache."

Shelling neighborhoods where people live because Hamas decides to use them, in effect, as human shields just makes things worse. This protective wall of theirs that throws burdens onto ordinary people doesn't help either.

That protective wall of theirs has prevented countless terrorist attacks.
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Old 03-29-2012, 10:09 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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TNlove in his drive to smear Israel conveniently fails to mention that of the $2.6 billion U.S. that comprises U.S. foreign aide to Israel, only about $240 million goes for economic purposes, or approximately 1/9 of the total received. The rest is military assistance and cash which the U.S. gives Israel and which Israel then uses to purchase American weaponry.
So the question is really: Should we continue supplying corporate welfare to the US defense industry?

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