Fox News and their Obsession With Socialism is a Third Red Scare (Pelosi, conspiracy)

[McGowdog]

Originally Posted by Tonyafd

Ten minutes ago I watched Fox News for about as long as I could stand it. Which was about five minutes. The group was four attractively dressed female commentators and one male commentator. They used the word socialism at least five times. They used it when they connected Sanders, Elizabeth Warren, and of course Venezuela.

The definition of Socialism is the state ownership of major industry as an evolutionary step toward communism. This obsession by Fox News commentators would be laughable if so many of you didn't take this new Red Scare seriously.

Here is the definition about what was tried before from Wikipedia:

"A "[b]Red Scare[/]" is promotion of widespread fear by a society or state about a potential rise of [url="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communism"]communism[/RL], [url="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchism"]anarchism/URL], or [url="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radical_leftism"]radical leftism[/UL]. The term is most often used to refer to two periods in the history of the United States with this name. The [url="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Red_Scare"]First Red Scare[/UL], which occurred immediately after [url="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_I"]World War I[/RL], revolved around a perceived threat from the [url="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labor_history_of_the_United_States"]American labor movement[/UR], [url="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchism_in_the_United_States"]anarchist[/UL] [url="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolution"]revolution[/RL] and [url="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_radicalism"]political radicalism[url]. The Second Red Scare[/UR], which occurred immediately after infiltrating or [UL="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subversion"]subverting U.S. society or the [UR="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_government_of_the_United_States"]federal government[/URL"

Based on the Wikipedia definition above Fox News is engaged in a third Red Scare.

If it's a Third Red Scare, why are Ocasio-Cortez, Kamala Harris etc. backpedaling from it like Dion Sanders?

Only Bernie Sanders is blatantly doubling down on stupid.

[Tonyafd]

Originally Posted by T-310

Actually I don’t watch any news. Wealth redistribution is a tenet of socialism, the New Green Disaster is a socialist program.

Au Contraire. Wealth redistribution is permitted by the sixteenth amendment.

[Finn_Jarber]

Originally Posted by Tonyafd

Ten minutes ago I watched Fox News for about as long as I could stand it. Which was about five minutes. The group was four attractively dressed female commentators and one male commentator. They used the word socialism at least five times. They used it when they connected Sanders, Elizabeth Warren, and of course Venezuela.

The definition of Socialism is the state ownership of major industry as an evolutionary step toward communism. This obsession by Fox News commentators would be laughable if so many of you didn't take this new Red Scare seriously.

They do not even know what socialism it.

Or rather they do know, but want to mislead their viewers.

This is only the beginning. They will parrot socialism, and "infanticide" all day long until Nov 2020.

[Tonyafd]

Originally Posted by McGowdog

If it's a Third Red Scare, why are Kamala Harris etc. backpedaling from it like Dion Sanders?

Only Bernie Sanders is blatantly doubling down on stupid.

Ocasio-Cortez is growing up. This is about Fox, not them.

[carterstamp]

Originally Posted by Tonyafd

Ten minutes ago I watched Fox News for about as long as I could stand it. Which was about five minutes. The group was four attractively dressed female commentators and one male commentator. They used the word socialism at least five times. They used it when they connected Sanders, Elizabeth Warren, and of course Venezuela.

The definition of Socialism is the state ownership of major industry as an evolutionary step toward communism. This obsession by Fox News commentators would be laughable if so many of you didn't take this new Red Scare seriously.

Here is the definition about what was tried before from Wikipedia:

"A "Red Scare" is promotion of widespread fear by a society or state about a potential rise of communism, anarchism, or radical leftism. The term is most often used to refer to two periods in the history of the United States with this name. The First Red Scare, which occurred immediately after World War I, revolved around a perceived threat from the American labor movement, anarchist revolution and political radicalism. The Second Red Scare, which occurred immediately after World War II, was preoccupied with the perception of national or foreign communists infiltrating or subverting U.S. society or the federal government."

Based on the Wikipedia definition above Fox News is engaged in a third Red Scare.

Yep, mainly because Bernie has decided to run. They want to raise the red scare specter early.

[Tonyafd]

Originally Posted by T-310

Actually I don’t watch any news. Wealth redistribution is a tenet of socialism, the New Green Disaster is a socialist program.

It's just that you fit the Fox news stereotype so well. Just an observation.

[HockeyMac18]

Originally Posted by Dumbdowndemocrats

The actions you see and being proposed by the new DemoncRatic Party speaks volumes .... again socialism suxs.The only ism I believe in is Americanism ...

There's no legitimate risk of socialism taking over the country.

The Democratic party's policies (even the furthest left ones) are not socialism.

[phma]

Originally Posted by Tonyafd

Ten minutes ago I watched Fox News for about as long as I could stand it. Which was about five minutes. The group was four attractively dressed female commentators and one male commentator. They used the word socialism at least five times. They used it when they connected Sanders, Elizabeth Warren, and of course Venezuela.

The definition of Socialism is the state ownership of major industry as an evolutionary step toward communism. This obsession by Fox News commentators would be laughable if so many of you didn't take this new Red Scare seriously.

Here is the definition about what was tried before from Wikipedia:

"A "Red Scare" is promotion of widespread fear by a society or state about a potential rise of communism, anarchism, or radical leftism. The term is most often used to refer to two periods in the history of the United States with this name. The First Red Scare, which occurred immediately after World War I, revolved around a perceived threat from the American labor movement, anarchist revolution and political radicalism. The Second Red Scare, which occurred immediately after World War II, was preoccupied with the perception of national or foreign communists infiltrating or subverting U.S. society or the federal government."

Based on the Wikipedia definition above Fox News is engaged in a third Red Scare.

No one cares about what some definition says. Socialism is a power grab that only benefits the ruling class. Eventually ends up with an authoritarian dictator creating poverty through the yoke of oppression.

[animalcrazy]

Originally Posted by T-310

I don’t care what your definition or anyone else’s definition of socialism is, I do not want to pay for other people’s stuff. Period. I don’t need government to decide what’s good for me. I know what’s good for me and I pay for me and not for thee.

So do you collect social security or expect to? Ever been on unemployment? FDR was labeled a communist and socialist for starting the social security program in the 30's. Try and take it away now. The ACA was not popular but try and take it away now. All new ideas are scary, but not all forms of socialism is bad. So I'm hoping that you won't be a hypocrite by collecting social security or ever collecting unemployment if you need it. I admire your stance on taking care of yourself, but I'll take that extra boost in my social security if all you non socialist tough guys will kindly give it back.

[dozerbear]

Originally Posted by Tonyafd

Ten minutes ago I watched Fox News for about as long as I could stand it. Which was about five minutes. The group was four attractively dressed female commentators and one male commentator. They used the word socialism at least five times. They used it when they connected Sanders, Elizabeth Warren, and of course Venezuela.

The definition of Socialism is the state ownership of major industry as an evolutionary step toward communism. This obsession by Fox News commentators would be laughable if so many of you didn't take this new Red Scare seriously.

Here is the definition about what was tried before from Wikipedia:

"A "Red Scare" is promotion of widespread fear by a society or state about a potential rise of communism, anarchism, or radical leftism. The term is most often used to refer to two periods in the history of the United States with this name. The First Red Scare, which occurred immediately after World War I, revolved around a perceived threat from the American labor movement, anarchist revolution and political radicalism. The Second Red Scare, which occurred immediately after World War II, was preoccupied with the perception of national or foreign communists infiltrating or subverting U.S. society or the federal government."

Based on the Wikipedia definition above Fox News is engaged in a third Red Scare.

Bernie Sanders calls himself a "democratic socialist" who wrote in 2011:

“These days, the American dream is more apt to be realized in South America, in places such as Ecuador, Venezuela and Argentina, where incomes are actually more equal today than they are in the land of Horatio Alger.”

Flashback: Bernie Sanders Praised Socialist Venezuela as Model for Ending Income Inequality

We know how things are in Venezuela, and they're not much better in Argentina or Ecuador.

Asked about the occupy Wall Street protests in 2011 Elizabeth Warren claimed:

“I created much of the intellectual foundation for what they do,” she says. “I support what they do.”

https://web.archive.org/web201701161...ll-street.html

Despite her claims to the contrary, Warren supports policies that give strong control of business to the government. Her "Accountable Capitalism Act" would require large businesses to receive a charter from the government in order to stay in business, and that the government can attach whatever conditions it wants to them. This article calls it "surreptitious socialism." https://www.hoover.org/research/eliz...ious-socialism

In a brilliant 1966 article called "Marxism in One Minute" Henry Hazlitt wrote:

The whole gospel of Karl Marx can be summed up in a single sentence: Hate the man who is better off than you are. Never under any circumstances admit that his success may be due to his own efforts, to the productive contribution he has made to the whole community. Always attribute his success to the exploitation, the cheating, the more or less open robbery of others. Never under any circumstances admit that your own failure may be owing to your own weakness, or that the failure of anyone else may be due to his own defects - his laziness, incompetence, improvidence, or stupidity.

Fast forward 53 years and we see things being written like this in the LA Times.

America is falling out of love with billionaires, and it’s about time

https://outline.com/xGfLGm

Warren and Sanders both jumped on the "Green New Deal" along with over 60 other democrats despite the fact that it would impose government controls over almost every aspect of peoples lives. There is a dangerous trend of people demanding more and more "free" stuff they think they deserve, at a time we are already massively overspending, and social security and medicare trust funds are both going to be empty in less than 20 years.

A new "Red Scare?" Nope.